96" Cam Only
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From: Winter Springs, FL
RE: 96" Cam Only
ORIGINAL: etrader
Not exactly designed as a bolt in/stock CR cam...54H (.555 Hi-lift)...for 96/103 engines CR up to 10:1
Not exactly designed as a bolt in/stock CR cam...54H (.555 Hi-lift)...for 96/103 engines CR up to 10:1
By the way Etrader, thats a real nice looking SE Ultra in your sig.
SB
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RE: 96" Cam Only
Are you doing the work yourself?
Call up HQ or any speed shop for that matter and ask them. If your doing the work yourself it is worth the $ to just do the cams. I think you'll be surprised at the change in character.
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Call up HQ or any speed shop for that matter and ask them. If your doing the work yourself it is worth the $ to just do the cams. I think you'll be surprised at the change in character.
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RE: 96" Cam Only
ORIGINAL: etrader
On a stock 96" Andrews 26 would be ideal. Might as well wait until you build the motor, then choose your cam.
On a stock 96" Andrews 26 would be ideal. Might as well wait until you build the motor, then choose your cam.
I've seen at least one chart on the TW6, but its TQ peak was also too high. Again, this is my preference, and YMMV--but I feel a touring bike should be cammed for best low-end grunt, as it will likely never be used to compete on the dragstrip. Jamie at Fuel Moto may try some cam experiments on his '07 RK next Spring, and I told him to keep me informed if he runs across anything interesting. I think the cam mfrs. will be producing 96-specific cams in the near future, if they haven't started already, and it's just a matter of time. In the meantime I'm very happy with the performance of this setup and may never do a cam upgrade.
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RE: 96" Cam Only
http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk...59352534940643 I think we have a clear winner!
My first thought was the TW6 based on suggestions from some folks with many more 'smarts' than I have, but then the 'committee' in my head starts yapping and the confusion sets in! The dyno on it looks good and I can play around with the exhaust if I end up with a big dip in the tq. I can do the work, long as one of my more serious wrench buds has time to 'babysit' me, I'm more of an Evo/Carb guy and it's been quite a few years since I've done much wrenching. Need someone to smack my hand when it gets in the wrong place!
Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
My first thought was the TW6 based on suggestions from some folks with many more 'smarts' than I have, but then the 'committee' in my head starts yapping and the confusion sets in! The dyno on it looks good and I can play around with the exhaust if I end up with a big dip in the tq. I can do the work, long as one of my more serious wrench buds has time to 'babysit' me, I'm more of an Evo/Carb guy and it's been quite a few years since I've done much wrenching. Need someone to smack my hand when it gets in the wrong place!
Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
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RE: 96" Cam Only
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RE: 96" Cam Only
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Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
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From: Winter Springs, FL
RE: 96" Cam Only
I think the jury is still out on the durability of the shoe material since it is still sort of new. That being said, Andrews has engineered retrofit cams to use the new system in older TC engines, so at least they must believe that its pretty good. There does seem to be agreement that the new roller chain system is much better than the old silent chain. HD does have a billet cam support plate that has brass bushings instead of the standard "parent material" bushing. I think that would be a must on any performance hop up. The thing with the gear drive system is that if your crank has too much run out, there will be problems. Since HD just increased the run out spec, it appears that that could be an issue. I believe that the chain system is much easier to install as well since the gears don't have to be pressed onto the cam and the cam into the plate. Crank run out would not be a factor in the chain system.
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RE: 96" Cam Only
I used the stock tensioners.
I have no idea what the peak HP & TQ numbers are on my bike nor do I care.
Does anyone really ride there?
I don't.
My bike runs like a raped ape or scalded dog, or what ever other example you use in the RPM range I usually ride.
That is 1000 to 4000.
It is one pulling SOB.
By the way Wood was in my top three.
After that it's all cruising.
Just because it can't be said enough, Thanks Philm and Dalton.
I have no idea what the peak HP & TQ numbers are on my bike nor do I care.
Does anyone really ride there?
I don't.
My bike runs like a raped ape or scalded dog, or what ever other example you use in the RPM range I usually ride.
That is 1000 to 4000.
It is one pulling SOB.
By the way Wood was in my top three.
After that it's all cruising.
Just because it can't be said enough, Thanks Philm and Dalton.
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From: Baton Rouge, LA
RE: 96" Cam Only
ORIGINAL: cmcsns
http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk...59352534940643 I think we have a clear winner!
My first thought was the TW6 based on suggestions from some folks with many more 'smarts' than I have, but then the 'committee' in my head starts yapping and the confusion sets in! The dyno on it looks good and I can play around with the exhaust if I end up with a big dip in the tq. I can do the work, long as one of my more serious wrench buds has time to 'babysit' me, I'm more of an Evo/Carb guy and it's been quite a few years since I've done much wrenching. Need someone to smack my hand when it gets in the wrong place!
Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
http://groups.msn.com/harleytechtalk...59352534940643 I think we have a clear winner!
My first thought was the TW6 based on suggestions from some folks with many more 'smarts' than I have, but then the 'committee' in my head starts yapping and the confusion sets in! The dyno on it looks good and I can play around with the exhaust if I end up with a big dip in the tq. I can do the work, long as one of my more serious wrench buds has time to 'babysit' me, I'm more of an Evo/Carb guy and it's been quite a few years since I've done much wrenching. Need someone to smack my hand when it gets in the wrong place!
Next, gears vs chain? How good is the roller chain setup? Any one had probs with it? Appreciate all the feedback, thanks guys
As for gears vs. chain, I would stick with the chains. From what I've heard the new chain setup is superior to their predecessor, and going that route would be less expensive. If I thought there would be any issues resolved by gears I would of course select that option.