DYNO Numbers for Baggers???
5th Gear
Joined: Aug 2009
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Check it out my new motor builder just finished my bike.
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
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Joined: Jul 2009
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My bad...I misread your post. I thought you had an SE Ultra. The good news is that with your upgrades you should be able to hang in their with any SE Ultra you decide to "dance with". Good numbers now that I see it's a 96". Good luck with it.
Last edited by Heatwave; Apr 21, 2010 at 06:38 PM.
Intermediate
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 26
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From: SE Michigan
Check it out my new motor builder just finished my bike.
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Near Las Vegas,Nv
Thanks guys, when I do a cam what would you recomend?
SE 211 or SE 255, or go with Andrews 26? I have a lot of questions as this is my fisrt Harley in 67 years. My retirement present to myself.
SE 211 or SE 255, or go with Andrews 26? I have a lot of questions as this is my fisrt Harley in 67 years. My retirement present to myself.
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Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 3,909
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From: Livingston, Texas
Check it out my new motor builder just finished my bike.
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
Still a rockin 2000 95" not much done to the heads just H/D springs port and polished.
cams gear driven
cam plate
High volume oil pump
11 to 1 comp.
48 mikuni
slash cut cycle shack pipes it loud very loud but fast very fast!!!!!
It is pumpin 118 HP 121TQ
As far as the SE cams, I'd consider either the 204 or 255. With the 211, you'd be giving up performance in the lower rpm range. Really, the 211 needs more compression to work well. Lots of guys love the 204. It works pretty well in the low end, and rocks in the mid-upper range. It also has the benefit of a great sounding idle. It's probably about comparable to the stock cam until around 2500 rpms, then it would take off. The 255 is a favorite of touring bike owners because it shines in the rpm range most of us ride... 1800 to about 4000.
I haven't worked with the Andrews cams, but there's lots of guys here that have. Just looking at the timing events, the 26 looks similar to the 204, but with a little less lift, duration, and overlap. It would probably come on a little earlier than the SE204, and the 204 would probably hold on a little longer. That's just an educated guess, not based on actual experiencee.
Really, for anyone to advise you on cams, you need to identify what rpm band you tend to ride in, and what you're wanting to accomplish. Do tend to ride at 3000 plus rpm, and like to bounce off the rev limiter? Do you want stop light to stop light performance? Do you tour 2-up, fully loaded? What I like might not be what you like.
Last edited by Mike; Apr 22, 2010 at 08:04 AM.
Intermediate
Joined: Dec 2009
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From: CenCal
Just talking about bolt-in cams... no increase in compression, displacement, or head work:
As far as the SE cams, I'd consider either the 204 or 255. With the 211, you'd be giving up performance in the lower rpm range. Really, the 211 needs more compression to work well. Lots of guys love the 204. It works pretty well in the low end, and rocks in the mid-upper range. It also has the benefit of a great sounding idle. It's probably about comparable to the stock cam until around 2500 rpms, then it would take off. The 255 is a favorite of touring bike owners because it shines in the rpm range most of us ride... 1800 to about 4000.
I haven't worked with the Andrews cams, but there's lots of guys here that have. Just looking at the timing events, the 26 looks similar to the 204, but with a little less lift, duration, and overlap. It would probably come on a little earlier than the SE204, and the 204 would probably hold on a little longer. That's just an educated guess, not based on actual experiencee.
Really, for anyone to advise you on cams, you need to identify what rpm band you tend to ride in, and what you're wanting to accomplish. Do tend to ride at 3000 plus rpm, and like to bounce off the rev limiter? Do you want stop light to stop light performance? Do you tour 2-up, fully loaded? What I like might not be what you like.
As far as the SE cams, I'd consider either the 204 or 255. With the 211, you'd be giving up performance in the lower rpm range. Really, the 211 needs more compression to work well. Lots of guys love the 204. It works pretty well in the low end, and rocks in the mid-upper range. It also has the benefit of a great sounding idle. It's probably about comparable to the stock cam until around 2500 rpms, then it would take off. The 255 is a favorite of touring bike owners because it shines in the rpm range most of us ride... 1800 to about 4000.
I haven't worked with the Andrews cams, but there's lots of guys here that have. Just looking at the timing events, the 26 looks similar to the 204, but with a little less lift, duration, and overlap. It would probably come on a little earlier than the SE204, and the 204 would probably hold on a little longer. That's just an educated guess, not based on actual experiencee.
Really, for anyone to advise you on cams, you need to identify what rpm band you tend to ride in, and what you're wanting to accomplish. Do tend to ride at 3000 plus rpm, and like to bounce off the rev limiter? Do you want stop light to stop light performance? Do you tour 2-up, fully loaded? What I like might not be what you like.
But as boogaloo stated it depends on what your after.
The best advice I can give is to be sure and use a good map builder / tuner.
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 10
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From: Denver CO
CAM Question
Hey boogaloo, good write up on the cams. I agree, the motor build has to fit the riding style. I have not been following the thread very close but have not seen much about S&S CAMS? I prefer the gear drive setup. I have a 2008 FLHX, 103" with SE heads and S&S G570. I told the Tech I wanted a torque motor, they were familiar with the G585 (I think thats it) but not the 570 so we looked up the profiles and he felt it was good fit for SE heads we were looking at. with the change of enging mount for 2008 there was limited selection of SE performance heads. I also went with SE touring mufflers, been there with loud and with enough cities giving tickets I decided play it a little safer. I live in Denver, Thunder Mountain did the build and initial tune. Initial tune left me with some pinging after coming back from 105th and they could not hear it. Took the bike to Rocky Mountain and they found the initial base tune was for the wrong bike. All fixed with better numbers and mileage. I don't have the Dyno run with me but at altitude HP=90 Tq=100. Not bad at altitude.
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Road Master
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 1,218
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From: Yakima WA
My bike, 2010 FLHX
Stage II 103 kit w/ SE 255 Cams
SE Pro super tuner
D&D Boss Fatcat with wrapped performance baffle
SE stage I air cleaner with Zippers' filter upgrade
Bike stock 68 hp and 84 tq
Bike now 92 hp and 106 tq
Stage II 103 kit w/ SE 255 Cams
SE Pro super tuner
D&D Boss Fatcat with wrapped performance baffle
SE stage I air cleaner with Zippers' filter upgrade
Bike stock 68 hp and 84 tq
Bike now 92 hp and 106 tq
Cruiser
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 129
Likes: 1
From: Near Las Vegas,Nv
(The 255 is a favorite of touring bike owners because it shines in the rpm range most of us ride... 1800 to about 4000.)
This sounds like what I need as I pack double most of the time and just cruise the highways. I gave up riding it hard a few years ago ( maybe 30 years ago)
But its still fun to be able to get it on every once in awhile 
Again thanks for the input.
This sounds like what I need as I pack double most of the time and just cruise the highways. I gave up riding it hard a few years ago ( maybe 30 years ago)
But its still fun to be able to get it on every once in awhile Again thanks for the input.