2007 Touring Models
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From: Ocean Springs, MS
RE: 2007 Touring Models
ORIGINAL: Bushy
Hell I hear there are 04 and 05's and even a hint that there a re 03's in crates at some stealers
Hell I hear there are 04 and 05's and even a hint that there a re 03's in crates at some stealers
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From: Eden, NC
RE: 2007 Touring Models
Why do folks want a 6 speed? OK, if you're gonna be towing a trailer full of lumber around I could see it, but why on a Harley? I wish mine had LESS gears, not more. Why would you want to shift gears 20% more? Harleys have enough torque in stock trim to make even a 5 speed almost unnecessary. Heck with my stock RK I can skip 2nd and 4th and only use 1st, 3rd, and 5th gear if I want to. I don't get it. More power, sure OK. More gears, why?
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RE: 2007 Touring Models
ORIGINAL: capn_buzzcut
Why do folks want a 6 speed? OK, if you're gonna be towing a trailer full of lumber around I could see it, but why on a Harley? I wish mine had LESS gears, not more. Why would you want to shift gears 20% more? Harleys have enough torque in stock trim to make even a 5 speed almost unnecessary. Heck with my stock RK I can skip 2nd and 4th and only use 1st, 3rd, and 5th gear if I want to. I don't get it. More power, sure OK. More gears, why?
Why do folks want a 6 speed? OK, if you're gonna be towing a trailer full of lumber around I could see it, but why on a Harley? I wish mine had LESS gears, not more. Why would you want to shift gears 20% more? Harleys have enough torque in stock trim to make even a 5 speed almost unnecessary. Heck with my stock RK I can skip 2nd and 4th and only use 1st, 3rd, and 5th gear if I want to. I don't get it. More power, sure OK. More gears, why?
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From: Southeast Wisconsin
RE: 2007 Touring Models
ORIGINAL: bonzo2
With the MoCo having to meet EPA regs I doubt the 95"er is gonna be a stock item anytime soon. They're having enough issues with the 88's right now. Just my $.02
With the MoCo having to meet EPA regs I doubt the 95"er is gonna be a stock item anytime soon. They're having enough issues with the 88's right now. Just my $.02
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From: Eden, NC
RE: 2007 Touring Models
ORIGINAL: TowJam
Less vibration, better gas mileage, reduced engine wear.
Less vibration, better gas mileage, reduced engine wear.
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From: elkton, va
RE: 2007 Touring Models
OK, so a 6speed lowers rpms at cruising speed, supposedly giving the above benefits. I'd love to see some actual tests proving that, but let's assume it's true. Why not just change the final drive pulleys instead of the whole transmission? Lots cheaper.
But like most things in life, there is a trade off.
[ul][*] A decrease in acceleration[*] Requires you to slip the clutch more off the line.
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Personally, I'd love to have a 6 speed on my bagger, but finances won't allow for it right now. I'm thinking maybe with next year's tax refund.
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From: Plano, Texas
RE: 2007 Touring Models
The HD six speed IS an overdrive transmission. All of the gear ratios through 5th gear( 1 to 1 ) stay the same as a stock transmission.The sixth gear ratio is .89 to 1, I believe. At 70 MPH in fifth gear, with a stock 88 ci motor you should be pulling 3000 RPM. When you hit 6th gear, your RPM drops about 400 RPM. These are the numbers I achieved on my bike.
If you use other means to achieve the same results, you suffer other issues. See above post.
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If you use other means to achieve the same results, you suffer other issues. See above post.
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From: Mass.
RE: 2007 Touring Models
Butt,
You are correct about the accessory 6 speed, but the stock 6 speed in the Dynas has different ratios. 6th is one to one same as 5th in the 5 speeds. They changed the final drive to a higher ratio as stated above thus getting the higher final drive without the downfalls of less acceleration and slipping the clutch in first to start off. First is a lower ratio than in a 5 speed.
Now you may ask what's the point? The 6th over is a great tranny, I know I have one too. The point is that overdrive is not as efficient as a direct drive final such as the 5 speed or Dyna 6 speed. The dyne is actually more efficient slightly geared up and running 1 to 1 final than our overdrive 6th.
DC.
You are correct about the accessory 6 speed, but the stock 6 speed in the Dynas has different ratios. 6th is one to one same as 5th in the 5 speeds. They changed the final drive to a higher ratio as stated above thus getting the higher final drive without the downfalls of less acceleration and slipping the clutch in first to start off. First is a lower ratio than in a 5 speed.
Now you may ask what's the point? The 6th over is a great tranny, I know I have one too. The point is that overdrive is not as efficient as a direct drive final such as the 5 speed or Dyna 6 speed. The dyne is actually more efficient slightly geared up and running 1 to 1 final than our overdrive 6th.
DC.
