PCV and EITMS not compatible?
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As for stalling when EITMS engages....I did have one episode of this occur and THIS WAS MY FAULT. That's why I never reported this in any of my threads. FYI...if you are running autotune...do not allow input AFR's into the 0% column for your autotune!!!!!! This will cause the PCV to try and autotune the nonfiring cylinder and sounds utrly horrible and will cause the engine to die.
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I'm in no way denouncing the OP for his legitimate concern about something that needed to be resolved, but this is the third or fourth thread I've read in the past month or two that circumstantially links the PCV with some malady that's befallen someone's bike, only to ultimately find that the two are unrelated. At least two of these threads ended in hung juries only because the OP didn't publicly reveal the "rest of the story," or the real reason the malady occurred. One was a fault code the OP was certain caused by his newly installed PCV, but what was learned later was that he also installed some chrome switch housings that somehow interfered with TBW. Another involved incorrectly installed O2-sensor eliminators.
Before the first night ended we had numerous people expressing worry about whether their bikes will suffer the same malady, almost a panic situation, some even having second thoughts about purchasing the PCV. This is only hours after the thread started and before Jamie was able to respond. What's even more astonishing is that within about two hours after the thread started there were suggestions of lawsuits. How much more ludicrous could this subject have evolved?
BTW, Marc, you make a damn good wheel balancer!
Last edited by iclick; Mar 17, 2009 at 07:56 PM.
I let my '07 go into EITMS mode today for the first time and by applying some throttle while moving away it had no trouble. I have the PCV with Auto-Tune installed. Unlike the '08's and '09's mine is strictly automatic, not selectable, and activates when the front head attains 290°, something I can monitor with the software loaded and connected to the PCV. I only tried this once, but I'm not concerned that this issue even remotely relates to the PCV.
I'm in no way denouncing the OP for his legitimate concern about something that needed to be resolved, but this is the third or fourth thread I've read in the past month or two that circumstantially links the PCV with some malady that's befallen someone's bike, only to ultimately find that the two are unrelated. At least two of these threads ended in hung juries only because the OP didn't publicly reveal the "rest of the story," or the real reason the malady occurred. One was a fault code the OP was certain caused by his newly installed PCV, but what was learned later was that he also installed some chrome switch housings that somehow interfered with TBW. Another involved incorrectly installed O2-sensor eliminators.
Before the first night ended we had numerous people expressing worry about whether their bikes will suffer the same malady, almost a panic situation, some even having second thoughts about purchasing the PCV. This is only hours after the thread started and before Jamie was able to respond. What's even more astonishing is that within about two hours after the thread started there were suggestions of lawsuits. How much more ludicrous could this subject have evolved?
BTW, Marc, you make a damn good wheel balancer!
I'm in no way denouncing the OP for his legitimate concern about something that needed to be resolved, but this is the third or fourth thread I've read in the past month or two that circumstantially links the PCV with some malady that's befallen someone's bike, only to ultimately find that the two are unrelated. At least two of these threads ended in hung juries only because the OP didn't publicly reveal the "rest of the story," or the real reason the malady occurred. One was a fault code the OP was certain caused by his newly installed PCV, but what was learned later was that he also installed some chrome switch housings that somehow interfered with TBW. Another involved incorrectly installed O2-sensor eliminators.
Before the first night ended we had numerous people expressing worry about whether their bikes will suffer the same malady, almost a panic situation, some even having second thoughts about purchasing the PCV. This is only hours after the thread started and before Jamie was able to respond. What's even more astonishing is that within about two hours after the thread started there were suggestions of lawsuits. How much more ludicrous could this subject have evolved?
BTW, Marc, you make a damn good wheel balancer!
Nicely said..
Road Captain
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Actually got warm enough to have the EITMS kick in today and had no problems at all. I did however have to roll the throttle forward to turn it on again. Still love my PCV and would highly recommend it!!
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when my o7 without parade dowload gets that hot it stubbles and is hard to come off idol with both cylinders firing. so this is not a pc issue its a hot motor issue.maybe i should file a suit against my motor ?
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This probably has already been discussed, but I thought the reason everyone was going to the PCV on the 09 is not to have the concerns about the issues of heat management. Ive had two tc88 in the past that had been ridden on many of 14hr long hot days in August in the midwest with no issues of heat. I guess the jurys still out on the 09 w/PCV until the hot weather hits?
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This probably has already been discussed, but I thought the reason everyone was going to the PCV on the 09 is not to have the concerns about the issues of heat management. Ive had two tc88 in the past that had been ridden on many of 14hr long hot days in August in the midwest with no issues of heat. I guess the jurys still out on the 09 w/PCV until the hot weather hits?
good point, hearing that i will still be on hold,
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07 08 and 09 get hot really hot one big reason is lean pc corrects that there are other reason, more cubic inches produces more heat ,the external oil passages are now internal( more heat inside instead instead of being lost from external oil lines).between pc and oil cooler it will run much cooler.but still not as cool as a 88 and with 88 u dont really know how hot it gets because it doesnt dropp the rear cyl.my 05 with pc would get almost as hot sitting in traffic on a hot day but never ran as strong as my 07 without pc.
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From: MI
Dude, you crack me up... You were post #7 in this may-lay and stated that you may wait to purchase and now you are mister "Nicely Said".
I know all of you guys are directing these post at me so take a minute and read my post carefully. I NEVER THREATENED YOUR BELOVED JAMIE!
I was talking about the manufacturer and their lack of concern. This has been an on going issue with many bikes, just because it was not posted "here" does not mean it does not exist.
I know of 4 people having this issue and the Dealer, MOCO and Dynojet says not me!!! Thus the anger in my post, even Jamie acknowledged I was not talking about him.
People get over it. This is an issue that needs to be corrected and in my "opinion" it MAY become a safety issue. Ignore it if you wish, hopefully I will be wrong and no one will ever get hurt over this (what ever it is) as I have been on way to many scenes where the biker lost to the car. I know from experience that it sucks in a major way to have to go to someones house in the middle of the night and tell them daddy is not ever coming home.
I also would think you southern guy's will be key in getting this figured out as you deal with heat that a lot of us never will. I think you will all admit that because of my INTENTIONALLY inflammatory post this issue has gotten major attention.
Flame on!!!
I know all of you guys are directing these post at me so take a minute and read my post carefully. I NEVER THREATENED YOUR BELOVED JAMIE!
I was talking about the manufacturer and their lack of concern. This has been an on going issue with many bikes, just because it was not posted "here" does not mean it does not exist.
I know of 4 people having this issue and the Dealer, MOCO and Dynojet says not me!!! Thus the anger in my post, even Jamie acknowledged I was not talking about him.
People get over it. This is an issue that needs to be corrected and in my "opinion" it MAY become a safety issue. Ignore it if you wish, hopefully I will be wrong and no one will ever get hurt over this (what ever it is) as I have been on way to many scenes where the biker lost to the car. I know from experience that it sucks in a major way to have to go to someones house in the middle of the night and tell them daddy is not ever coming home.
I also would think you southern guy's will be key in getting this figured out as you deal with heat that a lot of us never will. I think you will all admit that because of my INTENTIONALLY inflammatory post this issue has gotten major attention.
Flame on!!!
