Best wire splice?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...JSX7SHMW&psc=1
I ordered these. Marine forum mentioned them. Looks like you just put a heat gun on it, joins and heat shrinks all one. I have not doubt this upset people.
I ordered these. Marine forum mentioned them. Looks like you just put a heat gun on it, joins and heat shrinks all one. I have not doubt this upset people.
I've owned boats from 21' to my last one of 46' from 1986 until 2015.... I've run them out to 90-100 miles offshore from San Diego.
I did my own maintenance and equipment installs. I've installed 3 radar systems, 8 VHF radios/antennas, 6 AM/FM radios/antennas, 2 SSB radios/antennas, 2 AC/DC inverter systems, about 25 various 12V or 110v pumps and who knows how many gauges/lights/ monitor panels....
I've never once considered soldering due to the brittle nature of the joint, and well, boats will vibrate anything to pieces....
I've used butt connectors like you have above. I used Anchor brand.
https://www.defender.com/product.jsp?id=3423411
I always crimp mine, but just a proper, firm crimp. Too many people try to "crimp" butt connectors in half! Then the heat gun will activate the heat shrink case and you will see the glue flow out the ends, and you know the connection is sealed... I've used them in the bilge many times.... nothing worse than a salt water bilge to test a wire & insulation.... never had a problem with them...
Last edited by hattitude; Oct 17, 2019 at 08:14 PM.
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I was under the impression no crimping with these, the solder melts then heat shrink melts. Some brands listed the different temps for each. Seen videos on it too. Amazon has 45 minutes to be here by 9pm for next day delivery.
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If those butt connectors truly contain solder & glue, I've never used/heard of those type.. doesn't mean they don't exist... but I wouldn't use solder on my boats.... I believe, as others have stated in this old thread, that solder makes for a brittle connection... an electrically superior connection if done right, but too brittle for high vibration... IMHO..
The butt splices I use have no solder. The strength of the joint is the crimp and there's a glue in the heat shrink that reinforces the crimp joint as it seals the connection.... A crimped, stranded wire connection will hold up to constant and heavy vibration.... That's the reason the marine industry uses stranded copper wire instead of solid core copper wire like in homes..
Out of habit, I treat all my vehicle wiring (car, truck, motorcycle, RV) like I did on my boats.... and I've never had a problem....
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I think the difference here is they are in a sleeve like a butt splice, so solder can't move. Read about them on boat forum, plus I believe earlier post. They are sold as marine butt splices.
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I found out how brittle wire can become with soldered connections ,when my '77 superglide quit while going down the road. i also learned to carry a flashlight that night,because using a cigarette lighter for light on a windy night really sucks.
I use these; https://smile.amazon.com/Connectors-...ef_=ast_bbp_dp and haven't had a failure yet.
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...JSX7SHMW&psc=1
I ordered these. Marine forum mentioned them. Looks like you just put a heat gun on it, joins and heat shrinks all one. I have not doubt this upset people.
I ordered these. Marine forum mentioned them. Looks like you just put a heat gun on it, joins and heat shrinks all one. I have not doubt this upset people.
Dammit bought the wrong ones. I could not melt with heat gun or lighter. Going back and re-reading it does say heat shrink crimp.
Package doesn't say one way or other. Were supposed to arrive in 1 day, didn't until after work today, day late. Now I got an event tommorow. Pisses me off. Maybe just try auto store.
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I use these; https://smile.amazon.com/Connectors-...ef_=ast_bbp_dp and haven't had a failure yet.
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So going back to crimping ones with built in heat shrink. I do think the camtek would be the thing for lighting and controls.
Funny thing about crimp connectors. You can pull one out. But **** your pants trying to pull the other side off.
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These are awesome use them at work in wet and cold environments. Have dielectric grease built in up to 3 wires come in all sizes.Each wire size is a different color. Use them everywhere.
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I am working on volt reg. I think I want to keep it in line. But cool to see all the stuff.
The replaement plug comes with 18" pigtail, so doesn't have to be inline.
The replaement plug comes with 18" pigtail, so doesn't have to be inline.