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You can't extrapolate from your experiences that the PCIII gets lousy mileage while TTS is the other way around. Both simply tell the EFI how much fuel to inject at a given RPM and TP. The TTS does this by altering the ECU's configuration and the PCIII does it by intercepting the signal and altering it. The net effect is identical, and had you attempted to tweak the PCIII to get better mileage you would've reaped the benefits from that effort. I got 45-50mpg with a PCIII and later with a PCV, so it can be done regardless of the tuner you use, assuming it can be programmed to affect mileage in the range where you operate the bike. Both TTS and PC can do this.
I wasn't comparing PCIII to the TTS, just relating my experience. I actually think I may have had a defective PCIII, because no matter what I did it didn't change the mileage. I had really leaned out the cruise range and it still had no effect. Either way, I am a happy camper now, so all is well!!
I've had 4 big twins since 02, 3 carbed and my current is efi. I have gotten an average of 48 highway mileage with all 4 in their stock form. After rejetting the carbed bikes I lost 10% of my fuel mileage. After setting up my fuelpak to suit me I also lost 10% of my fuel mileage. All these bikes was just a simple stage 1 setup. City riding will decrease mileage a lot, most of my riding is on the road as I hate riding around town.
How many of you have checked the accuracy of your odometer? Next time out, take a long stretch of road and set one of your trip meters as you pass by a mile marker, and check it for accuracy. You my find that the Harley odometer is as inaccurate as the speedometer, and puts more miles on than you actually traveled. Here's a chart for checking your speedometer. Set your cruise right at 60, and time yourself for a few miles, and compare to this chart (click it twice and it will open big enough to read). This chart is courtesy of the Mn State Patrol.
To further explain my last post, here's a simple example of just a 2% odometer error.
If you travel 100 miles, and use exactly two gallons, you are getting 50 mpg. If you odometer is off by 2% and reads 102 miles, you now think you got 51 mpg. Motorcycle Consumer News now indicates speedo errors in their tests, and some are off by 5% or more.
Never have gotten over 38 MPG (mostly city driving) with either the stock setup or after my stage 1. Will have to mess with the map to see if I can gain some efficiencies.
How many of you have checked the accuracy of your odometer? Next time out, take a long stretch of road and set one of your trip meters as you pass by a mile marker, and check it for accuracy. You my find that the Harley odometer is as inaccurate as the speedometer, and puts more miles on than you actually traveled. Here's a chart for checking your speedometer. Set your cruise right at 60, and time yourself for a few miles, and compare to this chart (click it twice and it will open big enough to read). This chart is courtesy of the Mn State Patrol.
I've noticed this side by side with my Wife's 95 FatBoy. My FLTR racks up the miles quicker. Not much, but noticeable.
I really wonder how some of you figure MPG.. I just dont believe a lot of the figures.. I guess ill just go with my 39/41 with the bike running great and not worry about it.. Im really surprised some of your bike just done seize up. they have to be running way hot at that MPG
How hard is it to figure out mileage? I reset Trip A at every fill up. Divide miles traveled by gallons to fill. I just got back in fact. Little over 1/4 tank left. It took 3.8 gals divided INTO miles traveled (186) = 48.94, and thats all city driving. I'll tell you what else... my "Miles to empty" feature is spot on. If it says 52 miles to empty, I can barely squeeze in 5 gals.
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