TTS Tuner Cable Question?
Tourer
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From: Virginia
FWIW:
Have done numerous 45 minute VTunes on my bike and others. With windows XP Pro and Vista. As long as the computers were set up with latest drivers, COM ports configured, and Vista was configured per the TTS Tuning Guide, all recordings were piece of cake.
All using the Belkin F5U109 & later F5U409 Adapters.
Have done numerous 45 minute VTunes on my bike and others. With windows XP Pro and Vista. As long as the computers were set up with latest drivers, COM ports configured, and Vista was configured per the TTS Tuning Guide, all recordings were piece of cake.
All using the Belkin F5U109 & later F5U409 Adapters.
Thanks
Jim
Road Captain
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Jim:
While I'm definitely not an expert, I have spent considerable time with the TTS VTuning a couple of configurations on my '07. Have always set the CLBs (F&R) to 778 since I like to be a bit on the rich side. Once I've got sufficient data from numerous VTune Recordings and blend other areas of the map, I've always received 40-42mpg in no wind, flat land cruise.
Some do better with a bit leaner settings in the cruise ranges of the CLB settings, but it will require dedicated trial and error Recordings to realize small increases in mpg. I also go back and work with the Spark Tables once I've reached a reasonable number of cells being filled from the VTune process. And if you make significant changes to the Spark Tables, it will require a couple more VTunes to fine tune you last map.
Bit of a challenge, but can be accomplished using the Tuning Guide and appropriate riding scenarios to fill as many cells as possible.
Of course, an experienced Dyno Tune will take all the guess-work out of the equation. And will yield the highest mileage as long as the Dyno Operator is experienced with the MasterTune System.
I've always had good luck with the PZ176 map on a Stage 1 '07 model such as yours.
HTHs!
While I'm definitely not an expert, I have spent considerable time with the TTS VTuning a couple of configurations on my '07. Have always set the CLBs (F&R) to 778 since I like to be a bit on the rich side. Once I've got sufficient data from numerous VTune Recordings and blend other areas of the map, I've always received 40-42mpg in no wind, flat land cruise.
Some do better with a bit leaner settings in the cruise ranges of the CLB settings, but it will require dedicated trial and error Recordings to realize small increases in mpg. I also go back and work with the Spark Tables once I've reached a reasonable number of cells being filled from the VTune process. And if you make significant changes to the Spark Tables, it will require a couple more VTunes to fine tune you last map.
Bit of a challenge, but can be accomplished using the Tuning Guide and appropriate riding scenarios to fill as many cells as possible.
Of course, an experienced Dyno Tune will take all the guess-work out of the equation. And will yield the highest mileage as long as the Dyno Operator is experienced with the MasterTune System.
I've always had good luck with the PZ176 map on a Stage 1 '07 model such as yours.
HTHs!
Road Captain
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Additional requisite reading to go along with the TTS Tuning Guide:
http://www.box.net/shared/32spoht1c5
http://www.box.net/shared/32spoht1c5
Tourer
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From: TN
I only have a Serial-To-Serial cable.
My laptop only has USB inputs.
I called TTS, they're giving me this spill that I need to buy their $80 dollar Serial-To-USB cable.
For that kind of money I belive I would take my desk top out to the garage. ( considering you have one ) They probally have less than $10 in the cable.
My laptop only has USB inputs.
I called TTS, they're giving me this spill that I need to buy their $80 dollar Serial-To-USB cable.
For that kind of money I belive I would take my desk top out to the garage. ( considering you have one ) They probally have less than $10 in the cable.
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From: Vancouver Island B.C.
WVULTRA, sounds like you have a lot of experience with the TTS Mastertune. Just curious, to improve my gas mileage what do you recommend as the minimum settings for the CLB tables prior to doing a VTune? I would especially like to improve my cruising MPG when I am on the interstates. I have used the canned map for my setup 07 Ultra with SEAC and SE exhaust and only get 35-40 mpg on the interstates in the 70-80 mph range. I was thinking about lowering all the CLB values by 10-20 points and do a VTune and see if that make any difference. Any advice on that?
Thanks
Jim
Thanks
Jim
Tourer
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From: Virginia
When you are vtuning are you reaching the max of 80+ kpa in the cells on your histogram? If not and then you blend your numbers you take a chance of using to high a ve # which will result in running rich. Even with your clb's set as high as 778 you should see good mileage as 778 still equals 14.45:1.
Jim
'07 Ultra
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If you havn't dyno'd your SERT or vtuned your TTS then I would suspect that is the reason for your poor fuel milage. Until your ve tables are calibrated to how your engine breaths any adjustments to the rest of your map is a mute point. Any of the bikes I have tuned I just set the clb's to 781 and call it good. When you have vtuned until most of the cells are light pink or white, and you have reached maximum kpa's in rpm rows and then blended the rest I think you will see a big improvement in your mileage. Then work your timing tables and you should even see another improvement.
Road Captain
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Jim:
As lonewolf stated, you're not going to realize your expected potential in mpg or overall ridability until you've VTuned your map with the TTS Software. Canned maps are just that, a base starting point.
Take the time to use the VTune software, and it will pay big dividends. Leaving the CLB tables at the default setting will yield a bit higher mpg; but the heat issues will also come into play; especially at idle and low rpm operation. (in traffic)
As lonewolf stated, you're not going to realize your expected potential in mpg or overall ridability until you've VTuned your map with the TTS Software. Canned maps are just that, a base starting point.
Take the time to use the VTune software, and it will pay big dividends. Leaving the CLB tables at the default setting will yield a bit higher mpg; but the heat issues will also come into play; especially at idle and low rpm operation. (in traffic)
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Tourer
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From: Virginia
Jim:
As lonewolf stated, you're not going to realize your expected potential in mpg or overall ridability until you've VTuned your map with the TTS Software. Canned maps are just that, a base starting point.
Take the time to use the VTune software, and it will pay big dividends. Leaving the CLB tables at the default setting will yield a bit higher mpg; but the heat issues will also come into play; especially at idle and low rpm operation. (in traffic)
As lonewolf stated, you're not going to realize your expected potential in mpg or overall ridability until you've VTuned your map with the TTS Software. Canned maps are just that, a base starting point.
Take the time to use the VTune software, and it will pay big dividends. Leaving the CLB tables at the default setting will yield a bit higher mpg; but the heat issues will also come into play; especially at idle and low rpm operation. (in traffic)
Again, THANKS!!
Jim
'07 Ultra
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