K&P Engineering oil filter.... anyone?
Road Warrior
Joined: Jun 2009
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From: NYC
nice looking and has the chrome effect.....but it gets 7 times the flow rate because the pass thru sizes are 25 microns compared to normal filters which have a 5 to 10 micron pass thru. So it's basically letting more crap thru. I think it would be great as a pre-filter in front of a normal filter.
Road Master
Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Arizona
nice looking and has the chrome effect.....but it gets 7 times the flow rate because the pass thru sizes are 25 microns compared to normal filters which have a 5 to 10 micron pass thru. So it's basically letting more crap thru. I think it would be great as a pre-filter in front of a normal filter.
Paper filters are rated on averages, percentages of efficiency (also known as beta ratios) and multiple passes, so a 10 micron rated paper filter (as advertised on the packaging) may be letting particles 50 microns and larger through.
Last edited by Indianspringsaz; Oct 24, 2011 at 03:22 PM.
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From: Glendale AZ
Try and look at it like this. You have probably blown $100 on something that doesent work. This filter works and is a better filter than the others. I could see trying to justify price if it was a grand, but a $100 and never have to buy another filter? Just like the oil arguments, any oil will work. Some are better and cost more. 2 oil changes a year times 5 years. I could save a lot of money on oil if I go with the cheapest oil out there. I bet the engine will still run too.
I want to protect my bike. I use Amsoil and K&P.
Sorry for the rant.
I want to protect my bike. I use Amsoil and K&P.
Sorry for the rant.
A paper filter filters better than a re-useable one and it's efficiency goes up as the filter is used. 35 microns is half the size of a human hair. Now we all tend to use a k&n or oiled foam filter which sucks for filtration but looks nice. Silica(sand) is an engines biggest enemy and the filter we love allow quite a bit of silica into the combustion chamber and it ends up in the oil. Now the paper filters will filter out most of the silica in the first pass thereby saving the cylinder walls from being scored. Use whatever you like but be informed. A used oil analysis is your best indicator and cheap compared to a rebuild. We send in a U.O.A. For our forklift every 200 hrs and I piggy back one for my mustang and bike.
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From: Arizona
A paper filter filters better than a re-useable one and it's efficiency goes up as the filter is used. 35 microns is half the size of a human hair. Now we all tend to use a k&n or oiled foam filter which sucks for filtration but looks nice. Silica(sand) is an engines biggest enemy and the filter we love allow quite a bit of silica into the combustion chamber and it ends up in the oil. Now the paper filters will filter out most of the silica in the first pass thereby saving the cylinder walls from being scored. Use whatever you like but be informed. A used oil analysis is your best indicator and cheap compared to a rebuild. We send in a U.O.A. For our forklift every 200 hrs and I piggy back one for my mustang and bike.
TUCCI.. I havent priced them in a while.
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From: Summerville, S.C.
I picked one up on my 1000 mile service @ camtech customs. If you are going to keep your bike I think It is worth it. The way I look at it , there is no paper filter out there with a magnet, and oil changes come every 3000 miles, so the oil should not be broken down by that time or you need to look at better oil. most of the harfull contamination is in metal form .
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From: eastern Iowa
I have one and like it, never have to worry about having a filter around when I change oil. As for the cost it will save money in time, remember this filter fits just about all harleys, If you trade bikes keep the filter for the next one, It's the last filter you will ever buy. Unless the MOCO reads this and changes for 2013
Road Master
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Hickory, NC
I had one installed with my recent build. So, far I love it. I've done one oil change and I'm getting ready to do my second to get rid of the break-in oil.
I've always used a 1-liter soda bottle with a cutout to direct the spilled oil to my pan when I remove the oil filter. With the K&P filter, I found it much easier to get the bottle under the oil filter and keep it there while removing the filter. I ended up making much less mess during the oil change.
As someone already pointed out, it's also nice to be able to see what's collected in the filter between changes. Especially after a new build.
I've always used a 1-liter soda bottle with a cutout to direct the spilled oil to my pan when I remove the oil filter. With the K&P filter, I found it much easier to get the bottle under the oil filter and keep it there while removing the filter. I ended up making much less mess during the oil change.
As someone already pointed out, it's also nice to be able to see what's collected in the filter between changes. Especially after a new build.