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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Get with the program....GET IT TUNED....and enjoy your ride! 15000 kms/8's, heat management has NEVER kicked in. Bike runs flawlessly, even in extreme heat.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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Man, that would frustrate me too. I would think there has to be something wrong with the fuel mixture or sensors (tuned up) Make sure you're running at least 91 octane gas too. Have you taken to another dealer to get a second opinion on this? Just a thought.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:03 AM
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What actually happens when it goes into heat management? Lower idle? Stalls? Will it restart immediately or do you have to wait a while?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:05 AM
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First, riden in stop and go traffic 100 degrees on Jersey Shore, never went to heat management, even though it got so hot I thought I was gonna have a Harley-Davidson tatoo on my thigh when I got off.

I'd like to put something out there that I don't understand isn't discussed by anyone. Shutting an air cooled motor down in my opinion is NOT the way to cool it down. I grew up with my dad owning 3 service stations and my uncle an auto parts store. I wrench on my own cars and bike, time permitting. If you shut down a large GM V8 of the time (70-mid80's) on a hot summer day, you could restart it right away, but if you left it for 15 minutes, without air and water flowing to the motor, it would actually get SIGNIFICANTLY HOTTER. You could not start the car until you waited say an hour and after getting itself hotter, it then cooled down. You were stopping a hot motor and cutting off all cooling - it literally was a large block of metal COOKING ITSELF in an enclosed area. The starters were able to start the motor at normal operating temps or just above, but when you shut off the cooling, the engine parts expanded, particularly the pistons and rings, that caused additional friction. The oil had drained out and any starter that was the least bit questionable failed when you tried to crank the car over in this period. I can't tell you how many times people towed these monster V8's in that wouldn't start, and when they unloaded them off the tow trucks we'd walk up and turn the key and they would start right up, because they had cooled down during the tow.

Harley's are the similar chunks of metal. I think shutting one down in traffic is only going to cause the motor to get hotter. Unless you are locked in traffic on a freeway or there is traffic all around in every direction, I recommend finding some side streets or even turning back for a bit to get some air across the motor. Stopping it for any period of time will increase the engine temperatures at least for a short and possibly a reasonable period of time. It could actually be hotter when you restart it after 10 minutes then when you shut it off.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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I live in Phoenix also and my '06 RG has only gone into the early stages of H.M. once or twice, 4300 miles, 8 degree injectors. It has never stalled and runs just fine. I don't understand why some are having problems, while others are not. But I wouldn't listen to anyone that says get the bike "tuned." A new bike should be able to run just fine in it's stock configuration and some don't like to modify their bikes, and there's nothing wrong with that. Keep getting in the dealers face, make a stink, make a scene, and contact Milwuakee if necessary.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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ORIGINAL: bountyhunter

Get with the program....GET IT TUNED....and enjoy your ride! 15000 kms/8's, heat management has NEVER kicked in. Bike runs flawlessly, even in extreme heat.
AT WHAT PRICE! IT'S A BRAND NEW BIKE SHOULDN'T ALREADY BE TUNED?
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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I've yet to go into heat mgmt and I live in Phoenix. I have had the 25° injectors ever since the bulletin came out. You are probably running to lean for some reason.
Likewise here, but I don't know what size injectors I have. How can I tell? I think 118 is the hottest I've ridden in this summer. I was HOT, bike was HOT but never a stutter. (There was a lot of WHEW 's coming from me though.)
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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Besides the injectors, your problem is more likely that your engine is running way too lean. Like Bountyhunter said, a good tune will probably take care of it. In answer to the question on a new bike supposedly being in tune: No, it don't work that way. During break in you're going to be running a little lean by initial setting, but, after your first 1000 miles, the dealer wrench will usually then adjust the air/fuel ratio to richen it up. Nothing can replace a good tune up, though. And here you'll want to get whichever type of EFI that your favorite wrench is good or expert at using, i.e., the SERT, PCIII or, the best there is, the Zipper's Performance Thundermax. You'll be set in no time and the heat management issue will be a thing of the past. Good luck and ride safe.

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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Pardon my ignorance. What are 25* ingectors ??
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Besides the injectors, your problem is more likely that your engine is running way too lean. Like Bountyhunter said, a good tune will probably take care of it. In answer to the question on a new bike supposedly being in tune: No, it don't work that way. During break in you're going to be running a little lean by initial setting, but, after your first 1000 miles, the dealer wrench will usually then adjust the air/fuel ratio to richen it up. Nothing can replace a good tune up, though. And here you'll want to get whichever type of EFI that your favorite wrench is good or expert at using, i.e., the SERT, PCIII or, the best there is, the Zipper's Performance Thundermax. You'll be set in no time and the heat management issue will be a thing of the past. Good luck and ride safe.

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what i'm trying to say is that if i wanted the loud pipes and more hp.(owner's prefrence)then sure would go this route,but for the dealer to tell me i "have to " do this to stop it going into heat management mode that the MOCO program is a lot of trash,
 
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