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Yes, the dB standard is a certain level of sound at a given distance, in most of these statutes. Like 90dB at 3 ft. It has to be standardized and be performed the same way. Of course the sound level is different at a different distance. If it isn't performed in the manner prescribed it could be dismissed in court, just like a bad breath test in a D.U.I. The older laws saying "equipped with a muffler and not emit excessive noise" are easy to beat. What is excessive noise? It's different to different people 90dB at 3 ft. is always the same, unless there is backround noise affecting the test. Glad I don't live near Connecticut.
the problem is not every one knows what the standard is for the test. especially if you are traveling from one state to another. 'damn, got a ticket, oh well, send in the check'.....
also, i was thinking about (but didn't mention) how the area in which he performed the test could affect the outcome. is there buildings to reflect the sound back, or is it wide open space?
sure the test is 'supposed' to be performed exactly the same, under the exact same conditions every time. but can that be guaranteed? cops are supposed to follow speed limits too, ever see a cop breaking the law?
cops are supposed to follow speed limits too, ever see a cop breaking the law?
That is a pretty wide open statement, (not saying cops don't take advantage of the fact that they probably won't get a ticktet from another cop from time to time) but if you are talking about when they are on duty, you are mistaken somewhat. In my state there is a law that states we are in fact, immune from the law while in the process of performing our duty. That means we can make illegal turns, speed (with or with out lights and sirens on depending on circumstances) etc. all legally. It does NOT however relieve of us civil liability should are actions cause damage or injury to another person or their property.
I know and ride with quite a few LEOs in CT, and I ride in Kent all the time. This is not the first time they have set this up, and it probably won't be the last. The Trooper-in-Residence up there is trained and has sound meters. The local noise ordinance is well written. The tickets will stick. Basically if you have loud pipes and want to rev them in town, they don't want you around.
The state troopers I talk to basically don't care about generating revenue. They care about the complaints they receive about people riding like a**holes and blipping loud pipes in that area.
It's an extremely popluar ride destination with both cruiser and sport bikers.
That is a pretty wide open statement, (not saying cops don't take advantage of the fact that they probably won't get a ticktet from another cop from time to time) but if you are talking about when they are on duty, you are mistaken somewhat. In my state there is a law that states we are in fact, immune from the law while in the process of performing our duty. That means we can make illegal turns, speed (with or with out lights and sirens on depending on circumstances) etc. all legally. It does NOT however relieve of us civil liability should are actions cause damage or injury to another person or their property.
i'm not talking about when they are in the process of apprehending a suspect or responding to a call. i'm talking about when they are just 'cruising'
Illinois law states "any" aftermarket exhause is illegal, but that being said, I believe motorcycles are exempt. Although as FFeric has said, if you drive like a a** and then when stopped act like a a** I will assure you, that you will receive a ticket. As far as LEOs breaking laws, of course it happens, and I cannot speak for all of us, but you as a civilian have no idea where we are going and for what reason. In my dept, we have a General Order that we are not to use sirens when responding to alarms, that being said, it is important I would think, hopefully you would to if it were your house, but I'm gonna get there as fast as possible without hurting myself or someone else. That being said, I also have seen coppers driving like strokes, and hey I bet if you look at the employees you work with there are some strokes too... enough on that..
Ride safe and enjoy your pipes unless you live in Ct.
[QUOTE=NYRobG;6772453]I know and ride with quite a few LEOs in CT, and I ride in Kent all the time. This is not the first time they have set this up, and it probably won't be the last. The Trooper-in-Residence up there is trained and has sound meters. The local noise ordinance is well written. The tickets will stick. Basically if you have loud pipes and want to rev them in town, they don't want you around.
The state troopers I talk to basically don't care about generating revenue. They care about the complaints they receive about people riding like a**holes and blipping loud pipes in that area.
It's an extremely popluar ride destination with both cruiser and sport bikers.[/QUOTE]
I agree with the above.
Last fall some friends and I were pulled over around the MA/CT border by a local LEO.
We were just cruising through not making any noise.
The LEO started ranting about he was sick and tired about getting calls from the locals about motorcyclists tearing through the area making a racket.
After about a minute he stopped, told us to put our licenses/registrations away, drive safe and drive slow. Said he had an exceptionally bad weekend with bike traffic and noise complaints, smiled, and told us to drive safe, slow, and quietly.
I figure the local population in popular bike routes are putting the pressure on LEOs.
If someone draws my attention they will get it. But atitude is a big part. Stopped a kid for having those blue lights in his windshield washers. Decent kid, respectful. Didn't write him a correction notice. But I explained the law to him and he said he would take care of it. I was a kid once too.
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