Se 120r complete engine?
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I agree it depends on where ya want the power.
my thinking on the 662-1 is it is basically the same lift as the standard SE 266 that comes in the 120R. but with a intake closing of 45 deg vs the 266's 58 deg.
the 662-2 closes at 51 deg still moves it to the left more than the 266. but not quite as much as the 661-1. the 590 closes at 44 deg but much less lift. yes it would be easier on the valve train for sure. do they make the 5o90 in a 07 up chain. I thought it was a gear drive only cam?
I cant wait myself to get one. probably tune in stages. leave the 266 in there and see what it does. try a few diff exhaust,then advance the 266 4 deg. and do again...after that try another cam???? and so on and so on LOL
my thinking on the 662-1 is it is basically the same lift as the standard SE 266 that comes in the 120R. but with a intake closing of 45 deg vs the 266's 58 deg.
the 662-2 closes at 51 deg still moves it to the left more than the 266. but not quite as much as the 661-1. the 590 closes at 44 deg but much less lift. yes it would be easier on the valve train for sure. do they make the 5o90 in a 07 up chain. I thought it was a gear drive only cam?
I cant wait myself to get one. probably tune in stages. leave the 266 in there and see what it does. try a few diff exhaust,then advance the 266 4 deg. and do again...after that try another cam???? and so on and so on LOL
Do you know if I have chain or gear drive, so I can order them up? What else do I need to swap them? Different push rods?
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Dick I think you should run the bike a little more while researching the cam and parts ya need, you are one of the firsts so it would be good for everyones progress in the futre if you put so discussion behind the cam selection and parts needed. I trust Phils advice greatly but not sure if he was just flipping out an idea a few posts up. Could the exhaust be holding it back?
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One more thing, my gal is out with me right now. I'm asking her opinion. Her surmise is it is louder and rattles more.
To confirm it I asked her again as I type.
It rattles too much, makes her ears hurt.
Never once did she say faster. That is not what I was going for.
My girlfriend is looking for a new boyfriend with a quieter motor BTW.
To confirm it I asked her again as I type.
It rattles too much, makes her ears hurt.
Never once did she say faster. That is not what I was going for.
My girlfriend is looking for a new boyfriend with a quieter motor BTW.
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From: St Charles, Mo
Dick I think you should run the bike a little more while researching the cam and parts ya need, you are one of the firsts so it would be good for everyones progress in the futre if you put so discussion behind the cam selection and parts needed. I trust Phils advice greatly but not sure if he was just flipping out an idea a few posts up. Could the exhaust be holding it back?
To be honest, I expected wheelie power. It's not there. The bike gets up and goes pass 4000 and I ride there a lot, but damn can't do 1000 mph all the time.
Bike would be great in a quarter mile. My bars are only a block a part.
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I just started a post asking people's opinions on the best engine, listing HD, Screaming Eagle, Jims, S & S, Rev Tech, Indian, and Victory. No info yet, but I look forward to the responses.
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From my brief experience this cam blows. I have to down shift to pass. My stock engine would run with this motor out of the hole or so it feels. I'm not impressed with it at all. I'm taking Phil's advice on the Tman 590. Hope he is right.
Do you know if I have chain or gear drive, so I can order them up? What else do I need to swap them? Different push rods?
Do you know if I have chain or gear drive, so I can order them up? What else do I need to swap them? Different push rods?
if you swap cams to t-man adjustables would be wise. the + 30 would work . but you will need to set the t-man cams down in the lifter a little farther to quiet them down.
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Okay. I just gave it full throttle with my gf on the back. First time I wheelied a bagger or any Harley. We laughed so hard we pissed ourselves. Hot damn. And I thought it ran like stock. I'm so we todd id.
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I'm sorry, dude. I posted some videos in the wrong thread.
I got it back yesterday. Didn't get many miles on it because naturally it started raining here.
What you want to know? It is very tame at low speeds, which surprised me. Still needs a custom tune (next Saturday). Will have chart then too. Race clutch is a beast to pull. Really don't like it.
Phil might be right about the cam. I'm thinking more power lower in the revs. I was also told to ride it a bit before I changed anything. That I just might like it when I started using the power. Haven't really gotten into it yet. We will see. Simple fix if cams need to be swapped.
ACR seem to work well.
Let me know if I can help you with anything specific. I'm not a good writer.
I have 58mm
I have larger injectors
I have Fat Cat w/ performance baffle. Boarzillas are on back order.
Don't know compression. I'll work on that.
Heads are the heads that came on regular crate motor.
Can't wait to get you dyno chart.
I won't change anything until I get it on the dyno, so I can have a comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESZF1QWays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcGH6xGPIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37t7L13xyns
I got it back yesterday. Didn't get many miles on it because naturally it started raining here.
What you want to know? It is very tame at low speeds, which surprised me. Still needs a custom tune (next Saturday). Will have chart then too. Race clutch is a beast to pull. Really don't like it.
Phil might be right about the cam. I'm thinking more power lower in the revs. I was also told to ride it a bit before I changed anything. That I just might like it when I started using the power. Haven't really gotten into it yet. We will see. Simple fix if cams need to be swapped.
ACR seem to work well.
Let me know if I can help you with anything specific. I'm not a good writer.
I have 58mm
I have larger injectors
I have Fat Cat w/ performance baffle. Boarzillas are on back order.
Don't know compression. I'll work on that.
Heads are the heads that came on regular crate motor.
Can't wait to get you dyno chart.
I won't change anything until I get it on the dyno, so I can have a comparison.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PESZF1QWays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKcGH6xGPIU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37t7L13xyns
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I've been very interested in this route since the local HD shop quoted me $6500 for a 113 upgrade.
The cam and head combination on the 120r did have me wondering if it would be streetable.
Keep the observations coming!
