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Help Me Pls !
I recently traded in my 2008 HD Road King Classic for a 2010 Street Glide. At the time of trade in, I asked if my Arlen Ness Big Sucker Air Cleaner and my Power Commander 3 could be instaleld prior to me taking delivery. Answer was yes. I tool delivery on a Saturday, rode it 5 miles to the house. The next day I rode another 6 miles before the bike shut off (and would not re-start). The dealer came and picked it up, it was discovered the ECM fuse had popped. The fuse was replaced and after 5 days no answer could be given as to WHY the fuse had popped. After 10 miles the bike stalled at an intersection (but would re-start), then it stalled while in motion (speed 35), the RPM gauge jumped up and down, then refired. After this happened 4 times, I limped the bike back to the dealer. It was then discovered that a Power Commander 3 is not to be installed on a 2010, so a Power Commander 5 was ordered (I had to pay half). Once it was installed I again took delivery and took off. After 21 miles, the bike again stalled while in motion, AGAIN the dealer came and got the bike. A scan tool was put on the bike and it spit a ECM error code (1014 I believe). I called a service tech and weas told to clear the code, and re-install the firmware and ride the bike again. After doing this, the bike was then rode by two dealer technicians, the first experienced a "throttle loss" after 25 miles (later what they described was the bike staleld and would refire (much like the bike was being pushed off) and the second reported no issues but only went 10 miles. The bike will run fine without the Power Commander. 65 miles were put on the bike when the PC 3 was removed and before the PCV was installed. The dealer states the issue is with the bike and a Power Commander, therefore they (the dealer) sees no issues. How can I have the only 2010 Street Glide with this issue. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be ?
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I recently traded in my 2008 HD Road King Classic for a 2010 Street Glide. At the time of trade in, I asked if my Arlen Ness Big Sucker Air Cleaner and my Power Commander 3 could be instaleld prior to me taking delivery. Answer was yes. I tool delivery on a Saturday, rode it 5 miles to the house. The next day I rode another 6 miles before the bike shut off (and would not re-start). The dealer came and picked it up, it was discovered the ECM fuse had popped. The fuse was replaced and after 5 days no answer could be given as to WHY the fuse had popped. After 10 miles the bike stalled at an intersection (but would re-start), then it stalled while in motion (speed 35), the RPM gauge jumped up and down, then refired. After this happened 4 times, I limped the bike back to the dealer. It was then discovered that a Power Commander 3 is not to be installed on a 2010, so a Power Commander 5 was ordered (I had to pay half). Once it was installed I again took delivery and took off. After 21 miles, the bike again stalled while in motion, AGAIN the dealer came and got the bike. A scan tool was put on the bike and it spit a ECM error code (1014 I believe). I called a service tech and weas told to clear the code, and re-install the firmware and ride the bike again. After doing this, the bike was then rode by two dealer technicians, the first experienced a "throttle loss" after 25 miles (later what they described was the bike staleld and would refire (much like the bike was being pushed off) and the second reported no issues but only went 10 miles. The bike will run fine without the Power Commander. 65 miles were put on the bike when the PC 3 was removed and before the PCV was installed. The dealer states the issue is with the bike and a Power Commander, therefore they (the dealer) sees no issues. How can I have the only 2010 Street Glide with this issue. Does anyone have any suggestions as to what the problem may be ?
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From: Mayfield Ohio
The 2010 needs a PCV the ECM is not the same as the 2008.
ALL EFI TOURING MODELS * 2008 818-511 dynojets part number PCIII
ALL TOURING MODELS 2010-2011 15-011 dynojets part number PCV
You may have dammaged your ECM by hoooking up the PCIII
ALL EFI TOURING MODELS * 2008 818-511 dynojets part number PCIII
ALL TOURING MODELS 2010-2011 15-011 dynojets part number PCV
You may have dammaged your ECM by hoooking up the PCIII
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Did you change to slip-ons or did you just upgrade the air cleaner? If you just upgraded the air cleaner, it would seem to me that you could simply remove the power commander and ride it to see if there is an issue. I seriously doubt that the PC has damaged the ECM since the PC does not send data back to the ECM; rather it receives data from it and passes the signals forward.
Another thing I have learned from my recent experience with my 2011 EGC is that there seems to be issues with the ECM connectors. There are various codes thrown, but not the one you mentioned above (that I know of). In my circumstances there was a connection problem with the harness to the ECM and after cleaning and replacing pins things just went from bad to worse. It ended up needing an entire main wiring harness replaced. I did not have issues where it died while riding but I did have issues of where the bike would go into limp home mode when restarting after getting gas.
Another thing I have learned from my recent experience with my 2011 EGC is that there seems to be issues with the ECM connectors. There are various codes thrown, but not the one you mentioned above (that I know of). In my circumstances there was a connection problem with the harness to the ECM and after cleaning and replacing pins things just went from bad to worse. It ended up needing an entire main wiring harness replaced. I did not have issues where it died while riding but I did have issues of where the bike would go into limp home mode when restarting after getting gas.
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Check and make sure the 02 sensor eliminators are installed. Make sure the correct map for your build is installed. Make sure the PCV is intalled correctly into the ecm and that all the pins are going in correctly and making good contact.
Personally I would do all of the above myself and not rely on the dealer. You can connect your computer with the PCV progam loaded into it into the PCV mounted on your bike and check to see what map is installled and what data it has recorded.
Personally I would do all of the above myself and not rely on the dealer. You can connect your computer with the PCV progam loaded into it into the PCV mounted on your bike and check to see what map is installled and what data it has recorded.
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why install PC at all, on the newer bikes you can add cams, pipes ,air cleaner , what ever and just use a race tuner to remap
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Realize that it might be taken as a smart *** answer, but yes - the power commander from your 08 is the problem- keep the bike 100% stock and ride it without all the aftermarket electronic gizmo crap and it should be able to go down the road without blowing fuses and dying in traffic.
Then in time, you have a couple of 1000's, trouble free miles on it and everything is broken in and running right, it would be worth looking into a solution from Fuelmoto specifically for your 10 or a company similar to them that offers a complete kit, vs running parts from the 08 on it. The new bikes are getting a lot of changes to them in a very short amount of time and not all of the stuff will be compatable.
Of course, you can ignore this input since I run a carb'd evo,
I just have to help my buddies with thier new ones and just tryin' to help.
Then in time, you have a couple of 1000's, trouble free miles on it and everything is broken in and running right, it would be worth looking into a solution from Fuelmoto specifically for your 10 or a company similar to them that offers a complete kit, vs running parts from the 08 on it. The new bikes are getting a lot of changes to them in a very short amount of time and not all of the stuff will be compatable.
Of course, you can ignore this input since I run a carb'd evo,
I just have to help my buddies with thier new ones and just tryin' to help.
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Realize that it might be taken as a smart *** answer, but yes - the power commander from your 08 is the problem- keep the bike 100% stock and ride it without all the aftermarket electronic gizmo crap and it should be able to go down the road without blowing fuses and dying in traffic.
Then in time, you have a couple of 1000's, trouble free miles on it and everything is broken in and running right, it would be worth looking into a solution from Fuelmoto specifically for your 10 or a company similar to them that offers a complete kit, vs running parts from the 08 on it. The new bikes are getting a lot of changes to them in a very short amount of time and not all of the stuff will be compatable.
Of course, you can ignore this input since I run a carb'd evo, I just have to help my buddies with thier new ones and just tryin' to help.
Then in time, you have a couple of 1000's, trouble free miles on it and everything is broken in and running right, it would be worth looking into a solution from Fuelmoto specifically for your 10 or a company similar to them that offers a complete kit, vs running parts from the 08 on it. The new bikes are getting a lot of changes to them in a very short amount of time and not all of the stuff will be compatable.
Of course, you can ignore this input since I run a carb'd evo,
I just have to help my buddies with thier new ones and just tryin' to help.