Increasing Oil Capacity
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Increasing Oil Capacity
Question - Searched on the forum and all the post regrading the Baker Plus One oil pan are older and the Baker website states the Plus One oil pan fits up to 2008 models.
Does anyone know of a similar product for 2009 and newer touring models?
Thanks
T
Does anyone know of a similar product for 2009 and newer touring models?
Thanks
T
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From: earth
Not sure if there is a difference in oil pans, best bet would be to call Baker, or ask your local parts department for oil pan PNs for different years. What ever your motivation for considering this oil pan, it is a whole lot of money for not that much return. Do a search and see how few people are using them.
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They are not available for the 2009 and up frame. I have talked to Baker and it sounds like developing one is not high on their priority list. Didn't sound like we will be seeing one anytime soon.....
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It will kill your ground clearance. Add an oil cooler and you will get almost 1/2 quart additional capacity plus additional cooling. Go with a good 100% synthetic 20W50 oil.
Can't imagine why you want more oil capacity on a street bike?
Can't imagine why you want more oil capacity on a street bike?
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I can't imagine why you wouldn't want the additional oil capacity and the associated cooling benefits. The only draw back to an oil pan with a superior design is $$$.
I do run an oil cooler and Mobil Synthetic - the combination works great. Brought my temps down from the 260+ range in adverse conditions to an acceptable range. PCV with AT helped a little more as the AFR was improved.
As far as ground clearance, no issues. What about every guy that bought a "factory slammed" Street Glide or Road Glide that sits a full inch lower?
I'm still looking to get the oil temps down another 10 degrees.
I completely understand that some would spend their cash differently.
hoofnhog - appreciate the on target reply and usable information. I guess I'll look at other alternatives.
T
I do run an oil cooler and Mobil Synthetic - the combination works great. Brought my temps down from the 260+ range in adverse conditions to an acceptable range. PCV with AT helped a little more as the AFR was improved.
As far as ground clearance, no issues. What about every guy that bought a "factory slammed" Street Glide or Road Glide that sits a full inch lower?
I'm still looking to get the oil temps down another 10 degrees.
I completely understand that some would spend their cash differently.
hoofnhog - appreciate the on target reply and usable information. I guess I'll look at other alternatives.
T
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There isnt as much space under there on the new frame, not sure it is possible to get another quart.
I would go the cooler, it has a much higher surface area than the pan and would loose more heat IMHO.
I would go the cooler, it has a much higher surface area than the pan and would loose more heat IMHO.
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"I'm still looking to get the oil temps down another 10 degrees"
Ah-ha, the motivation comes out. I'm not being a wise *** here, but why do you want your synthetic to run any cooler, it is completely within the accptable limits at below 260. If you just want cooler oil for the sake of having cooler oil, I can appreciate that, and I can assure you that a fan on your cooler will get you where you want to be and beyond, temperature wise. If you want cooler oil to reduce heat on the rider, it ain't going to do the trick. At stops and in traffic, I typically have oil temps of 205-215F while my cylinder head temps are in the low 300s, nutz still roasting, the CHT and exhaust is really what the rider feels as excessive heat. I'm thinking more and more that some type of heat shield is truely the way to go. 10 degrees is not that wild of a goal, you should be able to gain that by using a better or bigger heat exchanger, a second heat exchanger, maybe a different synthetic, a little more enrichment, or just lowering your operating RPMs 1-200. I wouldn't change cams just to lower temps 10 degrees, but most aftermarket cams will lower your temps, oil and CHT.
Ah-ha, the motivation comes out. I'm not being a wise *** here, but why do you want your synthetic to run any cooler, it is completely within the accptable limits at below 260. If you just want cooler oil for the sake of having cooler oil, I can appreciate that, and I can assure you that a fan on your cooler will get you where you want to be and beyond, temperature wise. If you want cooler oil to reduce heat on the rider, it ain't going to do the trick. At stops and in traffic, I typically have oil temps of 205-215F while my cylinder head temps are in the low 300s, nutz still roasting, the CHT and exhaust is really what the rider feels as excessive heat. I'm thinking more and more that some type of heat shield is truely the way to go. 10 degrees is not that wild of a goal, you should be able to gain that by using a better or bigger heat exchanger, a second heat exchanger, maybe a different synthetic, a little more enrichment, or just lowering your operating RPMs 1-200. I wouldn't change cams just to lower temps 10 degrees, but most aftermarket cams will lower your temps, oil and CHT.
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does your oil cooler have a fan? you could also add a parade fan. why not run your oil thru your crash bars...should add a little capacity.
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I hear you...same here due to NYC stop and go...thinking about something like a billetcool oil cooler. it sits under you oil filter. so you would have the billet cool...then the oil manifold for your cooler...then the filter. Don't know if anyone has done it...but getting close to pulling the trigger. The Harely slip on oil cooler collar won't work unless you cut out a 2" square to get around the lines to the manifold. The harley slip on collar is only 50 bucks, so might try that 1st. 20 degree reduction is claimed. not sure how the temp sensor in the oil cooler manifold will work with that...since it won't open til you hit a certain temp...it may negate the benifet of any additional cooling. Much to think about.
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An old trick is to drill and tap the crash bar on the lower sides and put some fitting on and route some pressure and return lines on. "Poor mans cooler" I have not done this but a buddy did worked good But boy does that bar get hot some times.