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I gapped my plugs at .40 (split the difference from the manuals suggestions of .38 - .43) but I was wondering what the effect is if I would gap at .38 or the other end at .43?
Sorry to say chaps, in the real world it's not going make difference," I did this" or "I did that" "and it seems to pull harder" etc etc is only an opinion, the only way you are going to tell if it makes any difference,is to put the bike on a dyno before and after any mods are done, and I bet you a pint the difference in the plug gap tolerence would be immeasurable on a dyno test.
Sorry to say chaps, in the real world it's not going make difference," I did this" or "I did that" "and it seems to pull harder" etc etc is only an opinion, the only way you are going to tell if it makes any difference,is to put the bike on a dyno before and after any mods are done, and I bet you a pint the difference in the plug gap tolerence would be immeasurable on a dyno test.
This is what I would tend to agree with. While theoretically you can argue many of the points presented in this thread, in the real world any benefit is gonna be negligible, and certainly not measureable except possibly in a tightly controlled laboratory environment.
To say you can feel the difference in the seat of your pants... Not a chance. It's all in your head if you do think you feel a difference. Ever take your car or bike for a ride just after you've spent hours detailing it - It feels like it runs better right? I know mine feels like it does. But that's impossible, it's simply in my head.
And for the tighter gap to make the plugs last longer - that's a myth also. The edges of the electrode get rounded off from use. Regardless of the gap, as the electrode edges lose their sharpness the plug's performance degrades proportionately. The crispest spark occurs from a very sharp edge like that found on a brand new plug.
Last edited by 2black1s; Nov 20, 2011 at 06:36 PM.
Sorry to say chaps, in the real world it's not going make difference," I did this" or "I did that" "and it seems to pull harder" etc etc is only an opinion, the only way you are going to tell if it makes any difference,is to put the bike on a dyno before and after any mods are done, and I bet you a pint the difference in the plug gap tolerence would be immeasurable on a dyno test.
Given the error factor amongst different test equipment, proceedures, and operators, I don't take much stock in dyno sheets, but I can feel the befor and after difference when making a change on my own bike, I just can't apply a value to it so someone else can scrutinize it.
This is what I would tend to agree with. While theoretically you can argue many of the points presented in this thread, in the real world any benefit is gonna be negligible, and certainly not measureable except possibly in a tightly controlled laboratory environment.
To say you can feel the difference in the seat of your pants... Not a chance. It's all in your head if you do think you feel a difference. Ever take your car or bike for a ride just after you've spent hours detailing it - It feels like it runs better right? I know mine feels like it does. But that's impossible, it's simply in my head.
And for the tighter gap to make the plugs last longer - that's a myth also. The edges of the electrode get rounded off from use. Regardless of the gap, as the electrode edges lose their sharpness the plug's performance degrades proportionately. The crispest spark occurs from a very sharp edge like that found on a brand new plug.
I bet noone would notice the difference in 'crispness' of spark due to nice sharp edge. lol, I think my car runs better after a car washing than after a tune-up or oil change! Thats why I try to do all at once! Makes it seem like its brand new under the hood! But thats just the guilt leaving the body!
I'm sure a lot of considerations were taken to arrive at the recommended gap range of
.38 -.43 My recommendation would be to set them to the low to middle of these settings if you plan to run them the full service interval, the gap will increase with wear, but should stay within range. For shorter intervals, I would say run anywhere in the range you like, but I would pull and check plug condition following a few miles of your normal ride patterns (stop and go, highway, whatever).
In a mostly stock motor, You may not notice much change however.
Indexing is a complete waste of time. Think about this. The intake valve is open on the down stroke of the piston. At the bottom of the stroke the intake valve closes. As the piston comes up the entire fuel/air charge is swirling around in the cylinder. As the piston comes to the top, the charge is compressed into a small area and completely surrounding the spark plug. Then the spark plug fires. It will not make a bit of difference to have the gap pointed at the intake valve at this point of the cycle when the charge is no longer entering the cylinder. On these engines, it will make no difference in performance to have the plug gapped at either end of the tolerances.
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