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I just bought a black 2012 Limited and I'm going to put the SE A/C, re-map and Rush slipons on it. I'm going to wait and see how it runs before going with a fuel management system. Is that a good choice? Also I want the pipes to have some bark to them. Do he Rush slipons sound pretty good. I'm to to get the 2.50 baffles as long as I'm still running with the cat. Is that correct? I'm not new to Harleys but I am new to the tourng platform and cats. Thanks for the help.
You'll get a wide range of opinions on this subject.
Personally, I'd do a fuel management system even if I left everything else stock.
So to answer your question "Is this a good choice?", my opinion is no.
But then again, my opinion comes from my experience with my bike. In stock form, my bike had some significant pinging issues. Richening the AFR was a major improvement. Others have said their bikes never ping. My only conclusion can be that their bike is either much different than mine, or they simply do not hear the same pinging that I was hearing.
Tuning is crucial. Most people would be amazed how well an absolutely stock bike runs with nothing but a decent tune. My bike is just a tuned Stage One, and I've had an awful lot of people ask what cams I'm running.
I just bought a black 2012 Limited and I'm going to put the SE A/C, re-map and Rush slipons on it. I'm going to wait and see how it runs before going with a fuel management system. Is that a good choice? Also I want the pipes to have some bark to them. Do he Rush slipons sound pretty good. I'm to to get the 2.50 baffles as long as I'm still running with the cat. Is that correct? I'm not new to Harleys but I am new to the tourng platform and cats. Thanks for the help.
The 2.50" baffle is the recommended choice for use with the stock head pipes. No tuning is required, the cat will provide the required back pressure for the O2 sensors to operate properly allowing the bike to tune back to stock settings. The 2.50" baffle in our Big Louie 4.0" shell slip on muffler will be the most aggressive slip-on we offer when used with stock head pipes. If you want any more volume, a head pipe upgrade will be required or a full exhaust system. At that point a fuel management system is strongly recommended and usually required for proper operation.
Let me know if you would like more info.
Thanks for considering Rush!
Ryan
I had Rush Slip ons on my 2009 Road King Classic. They sounded nice and I liked them allot. The PCV Tuner even helped with the heat on that bike, and it didn't even have a Cat. I think they had the 2.0 baffles in them. It had a SE AC and a PCV Tuner that I mapped.
I now have a 2012 Electra Glide Classic with a 103. I had this bike for ONE week before I gutted the Cat out of the stock header pipe. I couldn't stand all the HEAT coming from the Cat, it was ridiculous. My GF right leg was always on fire too. I yanked off the pipe and took it over to a buddys house and he cut an access hole and we removed the Cat. Then he Tig Welded the plate back over the access hole with Stainless Rod for me. The bike had around 125 miles on it when I did this. The motor really woke up, nice throttle response, NO more heat, and even the stock HD slip ons sounded decent and NO Tuner. I put a few hundred more miles on it like that with no Tuner and it ran great. Then I called Fuel Moto and got a SE AC, PC 5 Tuner that Fuel Moto mapped, and a set of Vance and Hines Slip ons. No reason for the VH Mufflers, I just liked the looks of them I guess, and a great deal came up on here for a set of like new used ones.
I agree with a few of the others on here, do the Tuner too. BEST thing you can do, is get rid of that Cat.
The 2.50" baffle is the recommended choice for use with the stock head pipes. No tuning is required, the cat will provide the required back pressure for the O2 sensors to operate properly allowing the bike to tune back to stock settings. The 2.50" baffle in our Big Louie 4.0" shell slip on muffler will be the most aggressive slip-on we offer when used with stock head pipes.
Ryan
I have a stock 2011 SG (with cat). I know sound is subjective, but could you describe the tone and volume of your Standard and 4" Big Louie pipes, when compared to my stock setup, or perhaps 4" Rinehart slip-on's, if that is any easier?
I don't want LOUD, but I DO want louder and deeper, without the tin can sounds.
I have a stock 2011 SG (with cat). I know sound is subjective, but could you describe the tone and volume of your Standard and 4" Big Louie pipes, when compared to my stock setup, or perhaps 4" Rinehart slip-on's, if that is any easier?
I don't want LOUD, but I DO want louder and deeper, without the tin can sounds.
Thanks for any help.
The tone and volume of our 3.5" and 4" slip-ons will be similar due to a similar baffle design. The 4" will be a bit deeper due to the larger shell but not a drastic change. When used with the stock cat equipped head pipes, the 2.50" baffle is deeper and louder than stock. The difference is night and day but in my opinion doesn't reach a volume that is obnoxious. Many of our customers with radios and passengers are happy with the 2.50" baffle size. They have told me it's not loud enough to hurt your ears on long rides, but if you twist the throttle people will know you are there. I agree with that statement.
Rush slip-ons use 16 ga steel which is thicker than stock and some aftermarket systems, plus we use a fiberglass mat to wrap the baffle. Combining those elements greatly reduces any tin can sounds and provides a deep solid throaty tone.
I have only heard the 4" Rineharts on bikes with open/aftermarket head pipes. Our 2.00" baffle will produce a similar volume when used with aftermarket head pipes but the tone will be typical to the manufacturer.
Ryan
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