Novelty helmets...What's the point?
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2005
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From: Lockport Township, IL
Please show me where I said we need any kind of laws. You can't because I never said it. Learn how to read. I did however suggest that if there is a law then perhaps it should be followed. My unsafe activities are not an issue here, I didn't post them on the world wide web. I'm still curious what makes you so special that laws don't apply to you.
Road Captain
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 710
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From: Colorado
Laws are made because someone, somewhere is going to make money off of it. Do you really think that a politician seeks office thinking, I want to make life really miserable for [fill in the blank with your forum name here].
Personal safety laws almost always start out with something truly tragic happening, usually to some 18-year old kid who had their whole life in front of them. It then becomes the crusade of that victim's family to never have another parent go through the hell that they experienced. They easily get the sympathy of the majority of people and of law makers. At this point there's blood in the water and the sharks can smell it and figure they can make a buck off of an enacted law and of course some of the money they make then goes to support reelection efforts for the elected official who supports such a law.
If you think the politicians are after you personally, you're deluded.
Personal safety laws almost always start out with something truly tragic happening, usually to some 18-year old kid who had their whole life in front of them. It then becomes the crusade of that victim's family to never have another parent go through the hell that they experienced. They easily get the sympathy of the majority of people and of law makers. At this point there's blood in the water and the sharks can smell it and figure they can make a buck off of an enacted law and of course some of the money they make then goes to support reelection efforts for the elected official who supports such a law.
If you think the politicians are after you personally, you're deluded.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 299
Likes: 1
From: Ct.
They easily get the sympathy of the majority of people and of law makers. At this point there's blood in the water and the sharks can smell it and figure they can make a buck off of an enacted law and of course some of the money they make then goes to support reelection efforts for the elected official who supports such a law.
If you think the politicians are after you personally, you're deluded.
If you think the politicians are after you personally, you're deluded.
If you think that the helmet laws in your area are unfair, you are in the minority.
And until your ideals, and thoughts are in the MAJORITY, you lose and have to suck it up.
Once you have enough people that agree with you, GO FIGHT THE LAW.
LAWS HAVE BEEN CHANGED IN THE PAST, AND THEY WILL BE CHANGED IN THE FUTURE.
Until then stop saying that us that choose to follow the law presently are sheepish. I have stood up about gun laws, and will stand up about gun laws. And those that I cannot help to change, I follow until we can change them.
I dont carry open anymore, because I am tired of wating my time fighting it and getting thrown out of court. I also havent had enough support, therefore have been in the Minority.
Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 2,246
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From: Cypress, TX
Fortunately, I live in a state where I can choose to wear a helmet or not. I choose to wear one but I believe you should have the right to choose not to. A helmet may not save you but statistically it increases your odds. Thats why I wear it. Again my choice. I don't want my choices legislated for me. I would go without a helmet before wearing a novelty helmet but that's just me. Lots of the states with helmet laws tag you for not having a dot helmet.
Road Warrior
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 1,979
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From: Central IL
You were the one who made the statement " helmet = no vegetable/minor injury/walk away". All I did was point out the obvious flaw in your statement. But, since you asked, one was brand new this year and the other was purchased in '05 when he bought his motorcycle.
I am not arguing the safety of helmets, I am arguing the right to make a decision without it be legislated upon me. If all of you "pro helmet" advocates are so sincere in your convictions, how many of you wear only a full face helmet? The superior protection of a full face over a half or 3/4 helmet is well documented. If your choice is all about the safety of a helmet then the clear cut choice in head gear should be a full face and only a full face.
FWIW...... If or when the state of IL mandates a helmet law then I will wear one. It will only be a Snell approved full face variety. If you're going to do something, why do it half helmeted aka...half a$$ed.
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Outstanding HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,140
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From: Wisconsin
Yeah, whatever pal, as much as I would like to spend some time arguing your points, I've learned a long time ago you can't win an argument with a rock, not saying you're a rock of course, just that solid gray matter inside your skull appears to be maybe ...... granite?