View Poll Results: Recall / Insurance
Bike is up to date on all recalls
87
89.69%
No way, not me - recall this
11
11.34%
Insurance kma- hand made/or not - they no nada
3
3.09%
Talk to my insurance, send pics of all after market / any add on's
3
3.09%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 97. You may not vote on this poll
Recall Why go ?
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,846
Likes: 171
From: Simi Valley, CA
There are different levels of safety issues! In my opinion this one barely touches the scale.
The failure modes identified are a potential loss of brake light and a potential leak of fluid.
As far as loss of brake light goes, this is no more dangerous than a burned out bulb in my opinion. Is there, or should there be, a safety recall to periodically replace bulbs because they are eventually going to fail?
And for the fluid leak, that is a condition that will provide ample warning before a complete brake failure, i.e., visible evidence of a leak or a brake function that doesn't feel quite right. Now if the failure mode was a complete and catastrophic rupture of the switch and instant loss of all brake function, that's a different story. But that is not the failure mode reported.
I just don't see this switch recall as very urgent. This is only my opinion and I certainly don't expect that everyone would see it the same way.
Same for having the repair made. Just because I opt to take my chances with the original switch doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same. Nor because you opt to have the switch replaced doesn't mean that everyone else should also.
If you're ok with your choice and I'm ok with mine, that's all that really matters.
The failure modes identified are a potential loss of brake light and a potential leak of fluid.
As far as loss of brake light goes, this is no more dangerous than a burned out bulb in my opinion. Is there, or should there be, a safety recall to periodically replace bulbs because they are eventually going to fail?
And for the fluid leak, that is a condition that will provide ample warning before a complete brake failure, i.e., visible evidence of a leak or a brake function that doesn't feel quite right. Now if the failure mode was a complete and catastrophic rupture of the switch and instant loss of all brake function, that's a different story. But that is not the failure mode reported.
I just don't see this switch recall as very urgent. This is only my opinion and I certainly don't expect that everyone would see it the same way.
Same for having the repair made. Just because I opt to take my chances with the original switch doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same. Nor because you opt to have the switch replaced doesn't mean that everyone else should also.
If you're ok with your choice and I'm ok with mine, that's all that really matters.
Last edited by 2black1s; Nov 16, 2011 at 12:05 AM.
Tourer
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 285
Likes: 1
From: Southern Illinois
My dealer told me if a bike comes in for any reason they legally cannot let that bike leave without the repair. It would seem that this repair is a serious matter to the mothership. A few other things I can think of I wish they would take serious. None the less I will take what I can get. Thank you HD.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,846
Likes: 171
From: Simi Valley, CA
My dealer told me if a bike comes in for any reason they legally cannot let that bike leave without the repair. It would seem that this repair is a serious matter to the mothership. A few other things I can think of I wish they would take serious. None the less I will take what I can get. Thank you HD.
What is true is that they cannot sell a bike unless the recall has been performed, but they cannot hold your bike, that you already own, hostage for a repair that you choose not to do.
Road Captain
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 505
Likes: 1
From: Houston
Because those 30 minutes to repair my bike would be 30 minutes of anxiety for me while I watched the tech molest my bike. I'd have no time to flirt or look at other bikes.
I know a lot of you who routinely have your stuff worked on by others may not understand this, but its real.
I'd prefer if my bike was never touched by anyone... Period. It's either exactly as it was from the factory in every respect, or if not, the change or modification or repair is familiar to me because I did it.
I know a lot of you who routinely have your stuff worked on by others may not understand this, but its real.
I'd prefer if my bike was never touched by anyone... Period. It's either exactly as it was from the factory in every respect, or if not, the change or modification or repair is familiar to me because I did it.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 4,741
Likes: 45
From: Indian Land, SC
There are different levels of safety issues! In my opinion this one barely touches the scale.
The failure modes identified are a potential loss of brake light and a potential leak of fluid.
As far as loss of brake light goes, this is no more dangerous than a burned out bulb in my opinion. Is there, or should there be, a safety recall to periodically replace bulbs because they are eventually going to fail?
And for the fluid leak, that is a condition that will provide ample warning before a complete brake failure, i.e., visible evidence of a leak or a brake function that doesn't feel quite right. Now if the failure mode was a complete and catastrophic rupture of the switch and instant loss of all brake function, that's a different story. But that is not the failure mode reported.
I just don't see this switch recall as very urgent. This is only my opinion and I certainly don't expect that everyone would see it the same way.
Same for having the repair made. Just because I opt to take my chances with the original switch doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same. Nor because you opt to have the switch replaced doesn't mean that everyone else should also.
If you're ok with your choice and I'm ok with mine, that's all that really matters.
The failure modes identified are a potential loss of brake light and a potential leak of fluid.
As far as loss of brake light goes, this is no more dangerous than a burned out bulb in my opinion. Is there, or should there be, a safety recall to periodically replace bulbs because they are eventually going to fail?
And for the fluid leak, that is a condition that will provide ample warning before a complete brake failure, i.e., visible evidence of a leak or a brake function that doesn't feel quite right. Now if the failure mode was a complete and catastrophic rupture of the switch and instant loss of all brake function, that's a different story. But that is not the failure mode reported.
I just don't see this switch recall as very urgent. This is only my opinion and I certainly don't expect that everyone would see it the same way.
Same for having the repair made. Just because I opt to take my chances with the original switch doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same. Nor because you opt to have the switch replaced doesn't mean that everyone else should also.
If you're ok with your choice and I'm ok with mine, that's all that really matters.
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,085
Likes: 4
From: DE
He does his own wrenching there also.
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Tourer
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 360
Likes: 0
From: Central Florida
Just because I opt to take my chances with the original switch doesn't mean that everyone else should do the same.
And the upside of not replacing the switch would be....?
Potential brake failure and/or a resulting crash would be at least mildly significant downsides.
And the upside of not replacing the switch would be....?
Potential brake failure and/or a resulting crash would be at least mildly significant downsides.
6th Gear
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 10
Likes: 0
From: Montreal
I understand your viewpoint
I don't like it either when they do maintenance because some of the mech are careless but in the end it's safe-wise to do it and they can find other things that should be repaired or took cared of so it's a win/win situation.
What do I know
What do I know