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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:21 PM
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Another Rookie question - If I install screaming eagles & big suck intake on my e-glide- will it be alright to ride the bike for a week or so before I take it to my guy for the tune?
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:25 PM
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Probably won't hurt anything, but it will run like crap.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:26 PM
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You'll be running way lean and probably run like crap not to mention blueing your new pipes.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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especially if you have a catalytic convertor in your headers, you will be ok.

alway good to post year model, modifications when asking a question as things change from year to year.

with the cat in place, there is a major restriction to flow- if you were to remove the cat or change headers, then you may want a tuning solution.

some bikes do, some don't.

for tuners, there are the add on units like the power commander, a download from Harley or I use nightrider.com XIEDS--- which for $125 are the perfect solution for me.

you need to be able to recognize if your motor is not running well, a real sign is "pinging" which is pre-ignition- this is audible as a sound like pebbles rattling in a coffee can on swift acceleration or go up a steep hill.

In my case ( 09) my motor pinged when factory stock under certain repeatable conditions ( 2800~3200 rpm up 6% grades). XIEDS solved that and I was later able to add the hi flow intake and exhaust with no ill effects

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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:32 PM
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Some say the ECM will adjust, but even if it does, you aren't running closed loop all the time. When you run open loop with a stage 1 A/C, you will be running way too lean.

You'll have to deciede for yourself, but I wouldn't do it.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 02:05 PM
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Ok thanks guys - I'll hold off installing the pipes till my tuner is ready for the bike - I'm getting it Dyno tuned by one of the best - it's a 07 - CA

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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 02:14 PM
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If it's an 07' you'll be fine to put the pipes on and drive it as 07's have no cat in the head pipes - just don't put the free flowing a/c on until you take it to get it tuned.
 
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sallyman
If it's an 07' you'll be fine to put the pipes on and drive it as 07's have no cat in the head pipes - just don't put the free flowing a/c on until you take it to get it tuned.
Exactly.
 
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Originally Posted by rkoivisto
Some say the ECM will adjust, but even if it does, you aren't running closed loop all the time. When you run open loop with a stage 1 A/C, you will be running way too lean.
As I understand it, the ECM will "learn" to compensate for the lean condition in open loop mode, but not in closed loop mode, where most riding occurs.
 
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