head pipes and mufflers without tuner ?
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Road Warrior
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head pipes and mufflers without tuner ?
My wife wants the Fuel Moto head pipes and the Jackpot carbon fiber mufflers for her 2011 Street Glide. she has no interest in more power, cams ect ect. I have installed the Xieds to help with the heat issues.
if I just change the pipes and mufflers can I get by without a Power Commander or other tuner ? should I also change to a high flow air cleaner or leave it as is since she is not really interested in a power increase.
if I just change the pipes and mufflers can I get by without a Power Commander or other tuner ? should I also change to a high flow air cleaner or leave it as is since she is not really interested in a power increase.
Tourer
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12 ultra. Dresser duals. Twin slash rounds. Vo2 a/c and fl-10 vied. Runs great and sounds even better. I dont plan on any engine upgrades so the vied is all I need since it works.
Could I get better performance out of a tuner. Sure. But I like to K.I.S.S. not to mention if I got a tuner there would be yet another thread on trying to figure the damn thing out and get it tuning right. Not worth the headache.
Personally I would spend my money elsewhere than a tuner.
Could I get better performance out of a tuner. Sure. But I like to K.I.S.S. not to mention if I got a tuner there would be yet another thread on trying to figure the damn thing out and get it tuning right. Not worth the headache.
Personally I would spend my money elsewhere than a tuner.
Last edited by cdemarse; Feb 19, 2012 at 04:05 AM.
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Like cdemarse said, FL-VIEDS are about $120, they are basically resistors that plug in between the 02 sensors and the ECM, and they richen the mixture a bit, allowing the bike to run cooler. A lot of people that have these are are very happy. If you dont like them you can sell them for about $50 and you can go with a more elaborate (and expensive) tuning system.
These things take about 10 minutes to install, the hardest part is getting to the battery terminal for the grounding wire.
http://sales.nightrider.com/FL-ViED-10_p_12.html
These things take about 10 minutes to install, the hardest part is getting to the battery terminal for the grounding wire.
http://sales.nightrider.com/FL-ViED-10_p_12.html
Road Master
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Bike is going to run cooler when he takes out the cat with the pipes he is going with. I would see how it runs after changing out the pipes and mufflers. If it is popping a little bit check for leaks if you can't find any then I would go with an AC and tuner.
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Like cdemarse said, FL-VIEDS are about $120, they are basically resistors that plug in between the 02 sensors and the ECM, and they richen the mixture a bit, allowing the bike to run cooler. A lot of people that have these are are very happy. If you dont like them you can sell them for about $50 and you can go with a more elaborate (and expensive) tuning system.
These things take about 10 minutes to install, the hardest part is getting to the battery terminal for the grounding wire.
http://sales.nightrider.com/FL-ViED-10_p_12.html
These things take about 10 minutes to install, the hardest part is getting to the battery terminal for the grounding wire.
http://sales.nightrider.com/FL-ViED-10_p_12.html
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Road Warrior
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Ran a FM 2/1 headpipe and SE Nightstick for months without a tuner with no issues when I first got my 10SG.
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my 07 pinged when hot(wich was alway) from the factory,ran ides and they were an improvement but didn't get rid of the ping pcv ping gone,as well as heat and runs better,not just more power but the lack of stumbling and surging.those result hold true with pipes and or ac or stock.just my opinion on my bike.your results will likely differ as no 2 harleys are ever the same.
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