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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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LOL..............you guys and your 3.37 gearing.

How about nitrous oxide...........will that accelerate like 3.37 gearing?

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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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yep....and i know nitrous
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:57 AM
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Speaking of gearing, how about a 6 speed?
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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Typically, a big TB is used in combination with big head ports, and high lift cams. The bigger TB really shines when everything gets moving ( Mid to high rpm ) if you go too big, it can actually reduce intake velocity and hurt torque down low. Steve, you could probably gain a few HP, and maybe not lose any TQ, but if you gain, say, 5 HP, would it be worth 300 bucks? I got my SE TB for $189.00 because my builder bought it for an '03, and it only fits an '06. If it was full price, I probably would not have one.....


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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Awhhhhhhhhhh.....................the thrill of speed
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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Some things that have not been mentioned, the larger you go the more your throttle grip becomes morelike an on/off switch, more difficult and less fun to drive. Too large and you will be at full power before you are at full throttle. Often cruise control will surge because a given throttle movement over/under shootsits intended speedtarget.

One method that I have used to determine if a TB is too small, is to do a WOT pull to redline with aaccurate,dampenedvacuum guage monitoring intake vacuum. If it stays under 1 Hg, don't go larger, the bestinduction systems that I've seen are around .5 Hg. Works best if done on a dyno unless you can datalog it, for example with SERT.

Watch out if aftermarket TB suppliers merchandise how much extra HP it will provide. Often they take the highest HP engine they can get their hands on, put a stock, then thier TB and advertise that number. Not really representative of what most engines are on the street.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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ORIGINAL: maineultraclassic

LOL..............you guys and your 3.37 gearing.

How about nitrous oxide...........will that accelerate like 3.37 gearing?

Steve

Ahhh Nitrous.....let's say a nice 30 h.p. kit from Edelbrock....I think my bike NEEDS it.
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: geargrinder

Some things that have not been mentioned, the larger you go the more your throttle grip becomes morelike an on/off switch, more difficult and less fun to drive. Too large and you will be at full power before you are at full throttle. Often cruise control will surge because a given throttle movement over/under shootsits intended speedtarget.

One method that I have used to determine if a TB is too small, is to do a WOT pull to redline with aaccurate,dampenedvacuum guage monitoring intake vacuum. If it stays under 1 Hg, don't go larger, the bestinduction systems that I've seen are around .5 Hg. Works best if done on a dyno unless you can datalog it, for example with SERT.

Watch out if aftermarket TB suppliers merchandise how much extra HP it will provide. Often they take the highest HP engine they can get their hands on, put a stock, then thier TB and advertise that number. Not really representative of what most engines are on the street.
I dyno'd my bike before and after big throttle body. It made no difference in drivability. Per the dyno I lost power. That was ok for I was looking at the big picture and swapped cams and ported heads after changing throttle body. It helped with cam and head change get me numbers that otherwise wouldn't of been possible.
 
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Hay Jeepster09 that's some big numbers for 95" with 26g cams did you dyno before the Supertrapp, if so how much did you pick up with it.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Picked up about 10 foot pounds of torque and about 2 h.p. [ P.S. they are Kuryakyn 26G cams and not Andrew's.]
 
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