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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:12 PM
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what i dont understand is why everyone wants to run away from the h-d 2 ohm speakers that they make for the lids? i mean they have been R&D'd and proven to work and work quite well and require no modification and can accept whatever power level that the OP is trying to throw at them. I mean his original intent was to spend about $475 but he could've spent $25 more and got the lids and the speaker setup from cyclepartsforless or surdyke and wouldnt have to worry about a wait or anything. am i missing something with the h-d speakers? I just bought a set yesterday and im about to buy the lids to go with them. i sure hope im not missing out on something WAAAY better than the H-D lid speakers.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:25 PM
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I have a 2012 street glide and I am looking to purchase a Boom amp with new fairing speakers and saddlebag speakers ( all Boom). I have read that some have installed a small amp in the saddlebag to power the saddlebag speakers. Is the under faring Boom amp enough to power the two faring speakers and the two saddlebag speakers or do I need to purchase two amps.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Eshaw301
what i dont understand is why everyone wants to run away from the h-d 2 ohm speakers that they make for the lids? i mean they have been R&D'd and proven to work and work quite well and require no modification and can accept whatever power level that the OP is trying to throw at them. I mean his original intent was to spend about $475 but he could've spent $25 more and got the lids and the speaker setup from cyclepartsforless or surdyke and wouldnt have to worry about a wait or anything. am i missing something with the h-d speakers? I just bought a set yesterday and im about to buy the lids to go with them. i sure hope im not missing out on something WAAAY better than the H-D lid speakers.
You've obviously never heard a side by side comparison. A set of 6x9s in cyclesound lids blow away the hd lids.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:02 PM
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You've obviously never heard a side by side comparison. A set of 6x9s in cyclesound lids blow away the hd lids.
yeah you are right, i have never heard a side by side but i'm gonna go out on a limb and say that the h-d lid speakers i bought powered by the 500w J&M rokker amp wont sound much worse (im using that word loosely) that the ones you speak of. plus, are the 6x9 in the cyclesound lids weather and shock/vibration proof? just curious. also, were they powered by an amp and how do the cycle sounds lids look in comparison to the H-D lids and what was the total cost of lids, speakers, etc. gotta go apples to apples when doing a comparison.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by coolerman69
You've obviously never heard a side by side comparison. A set of 6x9s in cyclesound lids blow away the hd lids.
disregard my last post...i stand corrected! $400 for just the cycle sounds lids?! and $700 for the lids and speakers together?! hell yeah, they better blow away some H-D lid speakers for them damn prices! and that doesnt even include an amplifier! wow, thats a hell of a comparison you just made there coolerman69. $500 5x7 H-D speakers and lids combo versus a $700 6x9 cycle sound speaker and lid combo? seriously? who does that type of comparison? really? 5x7 vs. 6x9? that aint apples to apples at all.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by coolerman69
I was about to ask your opinion on 6x9s for my speaker lids. But I see you are running pioneers. That's what I have now but they can't handle what the elf amp is putting out. What do you suggest?

You have the wrong Pioneers then. My Pioneers each have 150 watts from the amp. Perhaps something is wired up wrong.

I'm sure the Alpine PDX4.150 is putting out more power than the Elf.

Maybe you have a distortion problem.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Eshaw301
disregard my last post...i stand corrected! $400 for just the cycle sounds lids?! and $700 for the lids and speakers together?! hell yeah, they better blow away some H-D lid speakers for them damn prices! and that doesnt even include an amplifier! wow, thats a hell of a comparison you just made there coolerman69. $500 5x7 H-D speakers and lids combo versus a $700 6x9 cycle sound speaker and lid combo? seriously? who does that type of comparison? really? 5x7 vs. 6x9? that aint apples to apples at all.
WOOOAHHH! Dont get your panties in such a wad! $300 for lids, $79 for pioneer 3-way speakers, elf audio amp $75. Yes they are just as water "proof" as the hd speakers and they all can handle the vibration.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Eshaw301
what i dont understand is why everyone wants to run away from the h-d 2 ohm speakers that they make for the lids? i mean they have been R&D'd and proven to work and work quite well and require no modification and can accept whatever power level that the OP is trying to throw at them. I mean his original intent was to spend about $475 but he could've spent $25 more and got the lids and the speaker setup from cyclepartsforless or surdyke and wouldnt have to worry about a wait or anything. am i missing something with the h-d speakers? I just bought a set yesterday and im about to buy the lids to go with them. i sure hope im not missing out on something WAAAY better than the H-D lid speakers.
In my case, my 09 FLHT didn't come with a factory radio and the one I have is in my sig below. I did consider the HD lids as my local dealer gives 20% off. Lids/grills would have been $271 with tax. HD lids are molded to fit their own proprietary 4"x7" speakers. A couple members here were able to tweak/fit in some Polk DB 4"x7"/RF T 4"x8" speakers with a bit of snipping, dremeling and gasket maker. Me? I do some helping out at the local metric/Victory dealer assisting on demo days. I earned $300 in store credit and get 15% off of the items. They carry 6.5" rock-n-ride lids thru their Tucker Rocky account and can get Cycle Sounds thru Tucker Rockys american line affiliate, Bikers Choice. You can read from prior posts my ordering debacle. I can return the rock-n-rides if I don't like what I see, no returns on the Cycle Sounds as they're a special order. My outlay of $$ with credit/tax is $50 towards my lids so what the hell. The new in box RF P1692 6"x9" speakers were a bargain at $30 and well made with poly/mica cone, aluminum tweeter and sealed crossover. About as marine proof you can get w/out being marine certified. I did get some cut-outs from RF to see how fitment will be on the 6.5" lids. Polk DB651/Dxi650 use a bigger 4 hole mount that won't match up with the 4 hole mount/support brace of the 6.5" lids. The DB/Dxi 6.5" slims will mount perfect so they're my easier option. I am open to looking at various 6.5" speakers but won't be spending more than $90/pair if the first down pour can kill them. Still taking a pre-order for some saddlemen lid covers for Cycle Sound lid users to protect on trips from heavy rain $55 TYD lower 48 sometime next week ..
http://www.saddlemen.com/en/products...cover-only-flh

** Just did some quick checking and the top Pioneer 6.5" speaker, TSD1602R, can be had for low $60 range and has aramid/poly cone, butyl rubber surround and looks pretty stout. I'll check these out locally for a listen.. **
 

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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 09:00 AM
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I'm on the fence with lid speakers. I know they will sound better than having speakers buried deep in the saddlebag, but I just don't want to risk water either ruining the speaker or getting into the saddlebag. Mounting speakers so they fire sideways towards the wheel would seem to be a safer alternative, although I'm sure it would make them harder to hear. Anyone run lid speakers in a wet environment? Here in Fl we are smack dab in rainy season, and I often find myself out somewhere waiting out blinding downpours that seem to occur every afternoon. Should I even consider lid speakers, or are they really just for mainly dry weather?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by floridapoolboy
I'm on the fence with lid speakers. I know they will sound better than having speakers buried deep in the saddlebag, but I just don't want to risk water either ruining the speaker or getting into the saddlebag. Mounting speakers so they fire sideways towards the wheel would seem to be a safer alternative, although I'm sure it would make them harder to hear. Anyone run lid speakers in a wet environment? Here in Fl we are smack dab in rainy season, and I often find myself out somewhere waiting out blinding downpours that seem to occur every afternoon. Should I even consider lid speakers, or are they really just for mainly dry weather?
Tough call.. I get stuck in rain only a handful times a year. The Cycle Sound lids are flat but do come with a neoprene type membrane that is intended to let sound out and keep water out. If the speakers were to fill with water, I'd shut off the tunes. The 6.5" lids I'm getting aim the speakers a bit up/in toward the rider. I'll pick up the lids today and I have speaker templates cut out to see how some different speakers will fit. After reading a lot of specs/design features, I'm leaning toward either Polk DB651 shallow mounts which I can lower mount and use some weather resistent membrane to stretch across the speakers. They are marine certified and warranty covers moisture for $65/shipped with 3 yr ext warranty (per Polk). My top mount option is the RF T1675 (if it fits) as it has a bridge mounted tweeter of aluminum and the speaker cone is sealed. They are RF's recommended speaker for m/c use in a marine environment but they are not marine certified. RF warranty is specific not covering water damage. I find these for $88/shipped. Unlike batwing speakers that face little water encounter, especially those with adapter rings that recess them a bit more, lid speakers are FAR more prone to water/moisture issues. That's why I'm leery of spending bigger $ for more sonic capable speakers, along with sonic degradation of speakers to the rear at 60+mph. Good luck with your decision....
 
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