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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 01:10 PM
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Couple things.. It will only fit up to 08.. On 09s up the right side frame is different.. There isn't a bracket on the right side, it's part of the frame..

On other bikes, if you have a pipe like a Fatcat, I doubt it will clear the pipe..



Here is the one I use...

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9394028B2/en
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Couple things.. It will only fit up to 08.. On 09s up the right side frame is different.. There isn't a bracket on the right side, it's part of the frame..

On other bikes, if you have a pipe like a Fatcat, I doubt it will clear the pipe..



Here is the one I use...

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9394028B2/en
Yeah, interesting. They don't address that at all ... just an all encompassing 2002-2012 FLH / FLT application (which btw is not the bracket shown in the photo)

I think the one you use is the one most people use
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
Couple things.. It will only fit up to 08.. On 09s up the right side frame is different.. There isn't a bracket on the right side, it's part of the frame..

On other bikes, if you have a pipe like a Fatcat, I doubt it will clear the pipe..



Here is the one I use...

https://patents.google.com/patent/US9394028B2/en
I see. But the CCE unit attaches to the bracket, the bracket stays in the frame. 09-12 has tapped holes in the bracket even though they are not used. 13 and on doesn’t have the holes in the bracket.

And I see your patent. Have you manufactured any for sale?

Im going to replace my rear mounts because they are clapped out at 90k miles. I’m looking around for an upgrade but besides different donuts, I don’t see much out there in terms of upgrade for my 2015.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 07:36 PM
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You know Max, I didn't look very close and I thought you were just joking about "the one I use" and were just showing a patent for the Stock Assy.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nocoast
I see. But the CCE unit attaches to the bracket, the bracket stays in the frame.
Where do you see or read that?
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by nocoast
I see. But the CCE unit attaches to the bracket, the bracket stays in the frame. 09-12 has tapped holes in the bracket even though they are not used. 13 and on doesn’t have the holes in the bracket.

And I see your patent. Have you manufactured any for sale?

Im going to replace my rear mounts because they are clapped out at 90k miles. I’m looking around for an upgrade but besides different donuts, I don’t see much out there in terms of upgrade for my 2015.
I don't remember there being any extra holes on the 2011 RGS frame. The bracket is the frame.. No need for holes. I'd bet that the hole in the side of the frame that the rubber donut plugs into is a little small for the CEE .. I could be wrong..

IMO, for a 2015 at 90000, rebuilding the swing arm will get you what you need.. The 09 up frame have more trail which helps with the bobble.

I've not done a set for the 09s up but took measurements off a 2011 RGS..

The production was setup but the final design was screwed up in a couple ways.. The system needs maintenance to keep thing tight as the production surfaces used are not that flat .. Production units required extra maintenance over the original design. That's what happens when you listen to manufacturing engineers..

I don't have any of the originals but a couple of the production units. They are nice in that they are made out of polished SS like the ARP stuff but a PITA to make adjustments on.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2024 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Max Headflow
I don't remember there being any extra holes on the 2011 RGS frame. The bracket is the frame.. No need for holes. I'd bet that the hole in the side of the frame that the rubber donut plugs into is a little small for the CEE .. I could be wrong..
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Plus how would the "additional" bracket clear the protruding passenger footboard mounting holes on the existing?

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Old Apr 24, 2024 | 05:01 AM
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here is a 2011 frame diagram. Yes the swing arm mounting bracket is part of the frame but number 35 is a plug covering threaded holes. Maybe this is where the cce bracket attaches? 🤷🏾



here’s a 2015, no holes.

but as the other poster said, how would it clear the pretruding passenger mounting holes?
 
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A lot of people don't like the comment I'm about to make. How fast are you going in this sweepers that you get a wobble? Serious question, are you driving like a Grand Prix driver?

I've never experienced this on my 07 I've been told it's because I'm not going fast enough
 
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Originally Posted by roussfam
A lot of people don't like the comment I'm about to make. How fast are you going in this sweepers that you get a wobble? Serious question, are you driving like a Grand Prix driver?

I've never experienced this on my 07 I've been told it's because I'm not going fast enough
It didn't take a lot of speed to set my 04 to wobbling. Basically heeled over in a sweeper turn and then hit some expansion joints to bounce the bike a bit sideways since it was leaned over in the turn.

Was, and wasn't, a simple issue and fix, on my bike.

One is the was too loose steering head. A whole lot of the wobbling the bike had was right there, flopping easily around that hinge joint. Judicious use of arm strength damping helped a whole lot, as did a mildly tighter set to the free play. Never did install a steering damper, but it certainly could have helped.

Another was the built in oem slop in between the swing arm pivot shaft and the inner bearing inserts in the swing arm. Easily and obviously detected with the belt slack, but invisible with tension on the drive belt. That slop let the rear wheel turn side to side, with the belt acting as a rubber band. Eliminated that play and the bike never acted up again. Not on the highway, not on the track.

 
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