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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:33 AM
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Default 2010 96" Internals vs. 2011+ 96"/103" Internals

I have been searching for a late model Street Glide to replace my Night Rod for a few months now and have sold my "toy" Camaro for the cash to make the purchase this fall/winter season. My search was mainly focused on 103's since I have found them to be similarily priced to the 96's. My plan is to go with a 107" build and have discussed it with a few builders wherein lies my dilemma.

I was told by one reputable builder that Harley engine revisions run in cycles ... every 4th year is the best that Harley builds since the next year begins a new release. Basically, 2002, 2006 and 2010 are the best since these were the last years of the improvements to that design released 3 years prior thus 2003, 2007 and 2011 are the release dates of their "new designs".

This relates to my search since I was told that the 2010 96" is better than the 2011-current 96"/103" design (changes from metal bushings to plastic, changes to lesser grade bolts, etc - I don't remember all the particular changes I was told) and a 2010 will be a more reliable engine after the build. Can anyone confirm or refute this? This particular builder said he has been inside numerous 2010 96's and 2011+ 96/103's and has seen a downgrade in parts to raise profits on behalf of Harley.

For those with the opinion that I am over-thinking this, you are right and I already know that ... I do this with everything! It drives my wife crazy!
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 12:07 PM
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I have a 2010 and I'd be interested in hearing more about this.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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I think the biggest change other than the 103 was the SE compensator came standard in 2011. Lots of goodies with the 103 compression releases etc. I will say I'm not buying what your builder is sayin. Not that many changes in bolts etc... What bushings changed?
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 01:27 PM
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Have you ridden both to see how they perform? You may be over thinking this just a little
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SG_Dave
I think the biggest change other than the 103 was the SE compensator came standard in 2011. Lots of goodies with the 103 compression releases etc. I will say I'm not buying what your builder is sayin. Not that many changes in bolts etc... What bushings changed?
The ACR's being stock on an '11 (103") & '12 is a savings over a '10 right there ... most charge an additional $65 for ACR's + $40/valve + $60 for the harness. I have had an additional $100 quoted to bore the 96" cylinders over the 103" cylinders. All that is an additional $300. Another builder said it didn't matter ... just a few more passes on the machine, no big deal.

I have also been told the stock clutch will not handle the additional torque by some and no problem from another with the addition of SE springs at no additional cost.

Like I mentioned, I don't recall specifics on the parts including the bushings.
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sobluemf
Have you ridden both to see how they perform? You may be over thinking this just a little
The '10-'12's all handle the same and there is a slight power increase with the 103" ... you can feel the 10 ft-lbs, but it is ever so slight. If I wasn't planning the 107" build, the performance difference wouldn't matter.

From what I am seeing in the market, low mileage '10-'12's are no more than $2,000 apart. I am only trying to do my due diligence before dropping the cash! There are even several '10's in the market place that are more than a comparable '12.

... and yes, I already know I am over thinking, but for $18,000 + another $4,000+ in the motor build, I want to make sure I get what I want and not be sorry with what I end up with!
 

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:18 PM
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I would like to know who your builder is that is giving you this information? you might want to talk to another engine builder and get some second opinions before you get started. I would talk to Fuel Moto (sponsors on forum) about their 107 kit.
 
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 03:23 PM
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Happy with my 2011

12's and 13's my Indy said lifter are made in Mexico.......
 
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I would like to know who your builder is that is giving you this information? you might want to talk to another engine builder and get some second opinions before you get started. I would talk to Fuel Moto (sponsors on forum) about their 107 kit.
yep, now that he mentioned it that sounds like a good idea to me. lot of good stuff on here about those guys.
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Originally Posted by Bushpilot
I would like to know who your builder is that is giving you this information? you might want to talk to another engine builder and get some second opinions before you get started. I would talk to Fuel Moto (sponsors on forum) about their 107 kit.
I have discussed my plans with three builders. The first wants to do an S&S 106 bolt-in kit with cams and dyno tune. The second and third builders bore the cylinders and include head work and the predicted numbers are more impressive as is the price tag. The third builder could not verify the posted information given by the second builder.

My next step was seeing what FM thought about that information. They did answer all my questions about my Night Rod mods a few years ago and I used their tuner with their preloaded map for my Night Rod's Bub 7 and topless K&N and I have no complaints with it.
 

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