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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sortasuave
So has the problem been exclusive to the newer frame? I have a set of these (front and back) on an 07 street glide and will never go back to dunlops. The tracking and traction are 100% better.
I just ordered a set (Black Friday.....$245 OTD). Will report after I have them installed.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyC
I don't care what's posted on the tire, or the manual, different rubber, different design, adjust the pressure to perform correctly for you within a safe range.

Just changed over to a Metzler on the front and rear. I discovered that dropping the front to 36 pounds made a huge difference in how it handled on my bike.

At 40 it didn't have enough rubber on the road. Turned like power steering but really washed out and wobbled on the corners.
Totally agree. Always have followed the book re: tire pressure. 36PSI F&R solo, 36/40 2 up.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GMRO

BTW, JC did you work/fix your windshield? Any update? If ya did, hope it worked!
I stopped over at a local supplier of Weld On and they don't carry that line of acrylic adhesives. I'm looking for #4 with a watery consistancy to seep into the cracks and mend them. Gotta look again for another supplier, probably on-line this time.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2012 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Travler
Sorry to hear that some folks are not having good results from their CII's. I've had my rear on for over 6K & front probably less than 3K. I like them very much. I've had no problems w/ handling in wet or dry. I live in the Ozarks, so I get play in the curves often, they handle fine for me. I just hope I can get more mileage out of these than the Elite 3's...
Is this a touring bike? If so, do you have the new frame (09+) or previous frame? I have the CII rear tire and love it, getting ready to get a replace the front OEM tire.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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Happy to see we have a number of tire engineers on board. I guessed I missed, do you work for Michelin, Metzler, Bridgestone? There is a reason manufactures recommend a specific pressure. Pressure is what dictates that chamber (tire) can support given its intended use. There is also the need to have an amount of tire (footprint) on the ground. Too much and it will greatly affect the braking performance (which by the way is what the term traction refers too), too little and the tire may not be able to support the combined weight of bike, passenger(s), and cargo without overheating which can lead to delamination of the tire. (Tire failure) There isn't a single tire made that can provide everything for everyone. Tires are a compromise between ride comfort, traction, wet handling, and wear to name a few. Some do better in some areas, while others stand out in other areas. Just remember tires are what stops your vehicle, it's what provides the grip to the road.

Lesson done for today, tomorrow we will be discussing . . .
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Rickl
Happy to see we have a number of tire engineers on board. I guessed I missed, do you work for Michelin, Metzler, Bridgestone? There is a reason manufactures recommend a specific pressure. Pressure is what dictates that chamber (tire) can support given its intended use. There is also the need to have an amount of tire (footprint) on the ground. Too much and it will greatly affect the braking performance (which by the way is what the term traction refers too), too little and the tire may not be able to support the combined weight of bike, passenger(s), and cargo without overheating which can lead to delamination of the tire. (Tire failure) There isn't a single tire made that can provide everything for everyone. Tires are a compromise between ride comfort, traction, wet handling, and wear to name a few. Some do better in some areas, while others stand out in other areas. Just remember tires are what stops your vehicle, it's what provides the grip to the road.

Lesson done for today, tomorrow we will be discussing . . .
Well said. Not being a tire engineer, I'm sticking with the pressures printed on my bikes frame.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 10:58 AM
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Well I am going to give a try to what JonnyC did. My sidewall says 42 but I would describe the same thing hyper sensitive power steering and over 65mph a drifting feeling to the front end. I am willing to mess with a few pound of air to stabilize the bike. I will report back after the weekend.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigdad68
Well I am going to give a try to what JonnyC did. My sidewall says 42 but I would describe the same thing hyper sensitive power steering and over 65mph a drifting feeling to the front end. I am willing to mess with a few pound of air to stabilize the bike. I will report back after the weekend.
I tried all sorts of air pressure changes, alignment, shocks, etc. I wish you luck, but the only remedy for my bike was taking that Michelin off the front. Save yourself some aggravation and swap that front tire out and enjoy a good handling bike again.....
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rickl
Just remember tires are what stops your vehicle, it's what provides the grip to the road.
And to think of all the money I have wasted on brakes over the years.
 
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Old Dec 1, 2012 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mikelikesbikes
And to think of all the money I have wasted on brakes over the years.
Brakes are for sissies :-P
 
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