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He was real lucky, a real dumb ***. Not only over riding the abilities of the bike but his abilities also.
Sometimes people are willing to find out their limitations......and prepared to pay the cost. Ridicule someone who is just because you are not? Would you call Evil Kinevil a dumbass? How about Indian Larry, who did die doing something he had done many times before; just not the first time. The guy clearly was just going too fast. Most of the wrecks I see are because people simply give up on the turn and drive right off of the road. At least this guy stayed with it all the way, turning hard! If he could have just gotten a little speed off. I noticed he was not on the front brake nor did he have the clutch in. I assume by watching his throttle hand that he probably still had some on it; too frozen to let out of it? I guarantee you he will learn from this experience and be a better rider for it.
I like the post about the acid vs. testosterone gens. tho'. I must be a tweener 'cause I grew up during the acid generation, but man, did I love speed too. My 4th bike was an '83 VF750F Interceptor. I love my Harley but that bike, at that time in my life, still gives me the sweetest memories......until that effing truck pulled out in front of me. Barber Motorsports Museum has a blue one. I got a woodie just looking at it last year.
PS. The guy in the video....coolest dismount ever!!
I may have missed it, but I have not seen anyone tell the OP to change his body position. Once the bike is leaned over as far as it will go, to increase the speed through a turn, get off the seat. Move your body toward the inside of the corner and lower the center of gravity of the bike. This is what racers do when they drag a knee in a corner. Read a book by Keith Code like twist of the wrist. The other option, slow down, ride safe, enjoy.
This. Get your butt off the seat, head over the grip, relax the shoulders and push thru the turn. If I start scraping, I roll off the throttle a little and try to move more weight into the turn. Look how high that guy is sitting in that turn in the wreck video. Sadly, how he handles that turn is how I see a lot of other cruiser riders handle similar turns.
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This. Get your butt off the seat, head over the grip, relax the shoulders and push thru the turn. If I start scraping, I roll off the throttle a little and try to move more weight into the turn. Look how high that guy is sitting in that turn in the wreck video. Sadly, how he handles that turn is how I see a lot of other cruiser riders handle similar turns.
We are talking baggers here, not sport bikes. Your not moving around that much on a bagger.
Here's my 2 cents for what it's worth. I remember hearing and old boss friend of mine telling me to counter steer just a hair to really bite in the turns. Kinda like drifting sort of. If your curving right, kinda shift your *** (kicking out the rear tire in a sense) to the left and turn your bars by a hair to the left as well. Like your pulling your left wrist towards your left part of your waist. I also found myself leaning away from the curve too. Kinda putting your chin to the left wrist. It'll hook up better. It's very unnatural to do this at first. But you get used to it. I'm not an aggressive rider at all. But I remembered his sort of lesson and applied it a few times. It worked great. Found myself hookin up better in curves and turns going a little faster than usual if needs be. Especially when I did the trip to TN and ran the Dragon. Every one in my group was more aggressive than me. So I had to keep up. That little counter steering worked good for me. Hope that kinda made sense LOL!! Just my 2 cents.
But aggressive, or not, old or young, ride how you want but learn how to ride the way you want. That's what I say. To each his own. Enjoy the ride however.
Last edited by Smokengun; Jan 18, 2013 at 02:45 AM.
I don't think many here understand te physics of a bike. No amount of English is correcting that bike or helpin it turn more. It's DRAGGING! Pushing on the inside bar, looking through the corner, weighting I side is going to do nothing!
The bike is dragging doing all those things will enable you to fall faster. Doing those thugs is not going to award you 3" of clearance points.
Pushing an Inside bar, looking trough a corner will all help you corner Better. Leaning on the bike is doing hardl anything if at all on a bagger. You are not able to gift your weight enough to matter. Once it grinds, you cannot make I turn quicker.
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