No tuning needed on 07?
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
You aint installing a set of Rinehart TD's and not tuning it......
If it was just a set of Slip-On mufflers, yes, you can get away with it.....
Not the TD's.... You will be altering the ENTIRE exhaust dynamic.....
Touring bikes have, what is essentially a 2:1 system.....
That is what the ECM is programmed with, a map for a TOURING Exhaust system.....
It was a Sales guy that told you that, wasn't it??????
If it was just a set of Slip-On mufflers, yes, you can get away with it.....
Not the TD's.... You will be altering the ENTIRE exhaust dynamic.....
Touring bikes have, what is essentially a 2:1 system.....
That is what the ECM is programmed with, a map for a TOURING Exhaust system.....
It was a Sales guy that told you that, wasn't it??????
Road Captain
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
..listen to SB, anybody who differswith his recommendationplease get their phone number so they can contribute to your service bill when you hole one of your pistons or fry a valve....'nuff said!
It blows me away when people spend $15 to $20,000 on a bike then nickel and dime the one process that it most critical to the well being of the bike and their personal safety.
It blows me away when people spend $15 to $20,000 on a bike then nickel and dime the one process that it most critical to the well being of the bike and their personal safety.
Tourer
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
ORIGINAL: Deucegurl
I am leaning towards the Rhineharts
I am leaning towards the Rhineharts
If you meant Rhinehart muffers only then I stand by my statement.
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
Deucegurl, ask your dealer's service repif the new ECM and O2 sensors that come stock on the'07 Touringbikes have the ability to auto tune the bike within limited parameters, for example the RH TD pipe upgrade that you're contemplating. Ifthe '07'sdohave a limited auto tune capability, then thatmay be the reason the sales rep is sayingyou won'tneed to tune the bike (SERT)whenchanging only the pipes. Food for thought. I don't know the answer, but would love to find out.
At any rate, good luck with the new bike!
At any rate, good luck with the new bike!
Road Master
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From: Central Illinois
RE: No tuning needed on 07?
I agree with Gunrunner. With several years of Dyno experience including many '07 models, any changes will change fuel. Harley states if you do not change theair filter, blah, blah. Any dyno operator will tell you that you will benefit from tuning. The big thing with Rineharts is that the '07 uses narrow band 02 sensors and work on the theory of the stock head pipes are in line. If you go with true duals, fuel will be lean, temperatures will increase and performance lacks. If tuned, you will see an increase in mpg and hp. Next year when using the wide band 02 sensors things will be different.
Tourer
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
ORIGINAL: Gutman
Next year when using the wide band 02 sensors things will be different.
Next year when using the wide band 02 sensors things will be different.
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RE: No tuning needed on 07?
this is just opinion, with no factual basis to defend my position, but there has never been a HD that wasn't better off after being tuned.
The more the EPA dictates, the crappier the bike runs from the factory. It's not all the factorys fault, but some of it is.
As for me, I found my 99% stock bike (Ness Big Sucker run as an open element is the only mod) runs 1000% better with a PCIII than it did stock.
Your mileage may vary.
The more the EPA dictates, the crappier the bike runs from the factory. It's not all the factorys fault, but some of it is.
As for me, I found my 99% stock bike (Ness Big Sucker run as an open element is the only mod) runs 1000% better with a PCIII than it did stock.
Your mileage may vary.
