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I was going to go that route but my indy tried to order the HY-Lift ones and couldn't get that site to work so I ended up calling Comp-cams and got the 850-1 (same as V-Thunder) ordered last week. Now I'm thinking I might try to send them back. Have you ever tried the Comp Cam 850-1. I'm not planning on using adjustable push rods so would the HyLift 2313-SE work?
Originally Posted by stupid_rope
the reason you dont get too many people who have experience in HyLift Johnson lifters is because most people on this forum follow the crowd. i love the Johnson lifters, and they're half the price of the Woods with equal or better performance. but what do i know? i just build bikes for a living.
I just changed out my 255 cams with hd lifters this weekend, three out of four lifters had flaking of the roller, and one had a groove worn in to match the one on the cam lobe. Put these in when the bike was new. Had 20k on this set up.
Pretty sure no one recommends HD lifters. Here this story a lot lately with them.
Prior to this thread I started one asking who used the Chevy lifters and folks were recommending the 850-1 fro comp which I ordered last week, now it's Gaterman 1023's that are the best. How much are the Gaterman's and where does one order them? One guy replied he had 70k miles on the comp lifters with no problems. What cam are u using?
Although I did say I had ordered the Gaterman GP1023's and that they looked superior, I haven't yet tried them so I can't give an honest opinion. It appears that other lifters all have the same design and are adjusted the same way. The Gaterman's lifters have a different design and different specs for adjustment, which I would think would mean they won't work with stock non-adjustable pushrods. Whether or not they are better and worth the cost remains to be seen. I think I will install the new 777 cams with the V-thunder lifters first, run the bike and see how it sounds and then install the Gatermans to see if there is a difference. I'll let you all know how it comes out.
I was going to go that route but my indy tried to order the HY-Lift ones and couldn't get that site to work so I ended up calling Comp-cams and got the 850-1 (same as V-Thunder) ordered last week. Now I'm thinking I might try to send them back. Have you ever tried the Comp Cam 850-1. I'm not planning on using adjustable push rods so would the HyLift 2313-SE work?
interesting, I order from that site quite a bit. about 3 times in the last few months. if you ever have trouble with that site, here's the main website:
i replaced a set of comp cams once, but never put them in so i cant say from experience. any reason for not going adjustable my friend? just curious what your drawbacks are and if i can help with them.
also, the SEs are overkill for your situation (assuming that you're not using adjustable because your cam grind is same as numbers stock)
Thanks, in talking to the guy at Comp-Cams they own V-Thunder and they are the same lifters but sell them for $13.61 ea. I'm not so interested in price, just something proven to be better than HD. I have 55k miles on my originals (probable the B's) that were put in there in 07 but I didn't want to go with the HD C replacement.
Originally Posted by $tonecold
Although I did say I had ordered the Gaterman GP1023's and that they looked superior, I haven't yet tried them so I can't give an honest opinion. It appears that other lifters all have the same design and are adjusted the same way. The Gaterman's lifters have a different design and different specs for adjustment, which I would think would mean they won't work with stock non-adjustable pushrods. Whether or not they are better and worth the cost remains to be seen. I think I will install the new 777 cams with the V-thunder lifters first, run the bike and see how it sounds and then install the Gatermans to see if there is a difference. I'll let you all know how it comes out.
interesting, I order from that site quite a bit. about 3 times in the last few months. if you ever have trouble with that site, here's the main website:
i replaced a set of comp cams once, but never put them in so i cant say from experience. any reason for not going adjustable my friend? just curious what your drawbacks are and if i can help with them.
also, the SEs are overkill for your situation (assuming that you're not using adjustable because your cam grind is same as numbers stock)
My indy says no need for adjustables. His labor cost are lot less than HD. I also don't like the sounds of adjustables in case something comes loose on a trip. I know I could lear how to do it and lots are using them without any problems. Just old school I guess.
My indy says no need for adjustables. His labor cost are lot less than HD. I also don't like the sounds of adjustables in case something comes loose on a trip. I know I could lear how to do it and lots are using them without any problems. Just old school I guess.
so wait, is your indy custom ordering pushrods? what motor work are you having him do?
so wait, is your indy custom ordering pushrods? what motor work are you having him do?
No, we plan on using the stock pushrods. I'm just trying to do some preventive maintenance by replacing the lifters, inner bearings, probable the Axel Oil by pass spring and whatever else is needed. I have the 255 cam in there.
No, we plan on using the stock pushrods. I'm just trying to do some preventive maintenance by replacing the lifters, inner bearings, probable the Axel Oil by pass spring and whatever else is needed. I have the 255 cam in there.
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