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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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well they'll be paying, so no worries, but that painted fender is about $650 and takes about 6 weeks to get. I kinda doubt you'll get a rental bike, or even a rental car out of her insurance.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Markk9
To the OP, you tried to pass a moving car in the same lane the car was legally controlling, and you don't think you are a bit at fault?
This thought crossed my mind too, especially since it was a cross walk, the car could have been stopping to let someone cross. In a school zone that had a sporting event going on, I'd have stopped and waited, not tried to pass. but hindsight is 20-20 and if it happened to me, I'd be pissed and probably looking to off ALL the blame on the cager as well. Glad it was minor injury wise, and hopefully you learned a valuable lesson! (Never trust a cager, and never assume what they are doing or will do)
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete6114
That probably means you'll be without a bike for a long while. Are you going after a rental?
Yes working on that right now. Nationwide has one adjuster that deals with the personal injury side. Then another that deals with the motorcycle/property loss issues. The injury adjustor came today, and I expressed my displeasure with my brief experience. He said he would speak to the motorcycle / property guy and see if he can help move things along. Injury guy called me back and said property guy should be calling me to make plans for a rental.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Sagido
Yesterday morning my wife and I loaded up the Ultra Limited, for a 355 mile trip to visit family in Lynchburg, Va. The bike 1,300 miles new, just purchased in November. On our route, less than a mile from home. We were passing our high school campus, with tons of traffic because of a wrestling tournament. As we moved closer to the school, cars were parked on both sides of the road. A small SUV we had been traveling behind for over half a mile moves over to the right, and appears to be stopping at the crosswalk to let someone out. We move to the left portion of our lane, then suddenly they turn hard left right into our path. Thank god we were not moving fast, but we were not able to avoid a collision, and hit her squarely in the drivers door. She rolled down her window, and asked if we were OK, I asked someone to call an ambulance, since I could see blood dripping on my fuel tank.

I set my jiffy stand down, and my wife got off the back, and called the 911, and asked for an ambulance and police. The women driving the SUV says I must not have seen her turn signal that she was making an illegal U-Turn to park in a spot open on the opposite side of the road. A few witnesses step forward and said she did not have her signal on, and I was not doing anything dangerous. An ambulance arrived, and EMTs started to check me out, and asked if my wife had any injuries. I had a 2 inch laceration below my nose to my upper lips, likely going to leave a scar.

Needless to say I was not happy, but did not go ballistic since my wife was OK. At one point I was expressing my displeasure with the enforcement of traffic laws(Illegal U-Turns, and basic disregard for basic safety) of our local law enforcement officers. The officer didn't even dispute, my statements, and more or less told me he didn't have time to stop people for making U-Turns in the middle of busy roads, parking illegally, or making standing U-Turns from parking spaces. Monday I plan on speaking to our local chief of police, and ask him to make his officers more aware of more than just writing tickets at easy speed traps.

I was taken via ambulance to the local emergency room. No concussion (wearing a helmet), but has a pretty nice laceration on my upper lip. ER Dr put nine small stitches in to help keep the scaring to a minimum. Today looks like I have a fat lip with stitches in it. But gonna have a scar.

I called my dealer, and they arrived with an hour to take the bike. As low speed as the collision was, the damage to the bike looks extensive. The tab for the engine guard is slightly bent. Fairing, inner fairing, lower fairing, fender, engine guard, and some things I didn't even have time to take in are damaged. Talked to the service manager, and he told me he would get the painted parts on order yesterday in order to speed up the process.

I have spoken to my insurance company, and her insurance company. The police officer told me she is being cited for the U-turn, but I didn't get the chance to press him for much else. I talked to her adjuster, and he called her saying she didn't dispute any of the facts that I presented, and was waiting on the accident report. He said he will be out to see me first thing Monday morning. Debating on calling an attorney, but not going to sign anything without speaking to one first. I know I want a rental bike since this is clearing not my fault, and this is my primary form of transportation at this time of year.

OK Here is a link for pictures. They wouldn't upload previously. http://s1274.photobucket.com/user/Jo...cle%20accident
Addressing your issues over enforcement of traffic laws...

First, as a former police officer, and current prosecutor, I can tell you this...the entire U.S. driving population has been conditioned to think that DUI and Speeding are the only 2 real dangerous things you can do on the road. Anything else any driver does is essentially ok so long as they're not drunk or exceeding the speed limit while doing it. Scads of violations go unenforced. Always have, always will. Moreover, you cite someone for speeding, maybe 1 in a 100 will challenge it. Cite them for other things, or failure to do other things they think are only basic courtesies that they can extend to other drivers on an optional basis, and they'll make complaints to the police chief, and clog the courts with "not guilty" pleas wanting a trial. Sadly, many police, and police agencies have adopted this stance too, and put speeding and DUI at the tops of their enforcement lists, which is fine, but it's normally to the exclusion of all other violations. Facts of life. More facts. If you're on a motorcycle, and someone else makes a mistake causing a wreck, chances are you'll take little comfort in the fact that you weren't at fault, nor will you get much satisfaction in them ever seeing the error of their ways.

Glad you and the wife are ok.

Edit to add: Texting has become the 3rd thing to get the political "dangerous driving" label. Dumbass drivers were dangerously distracted long before texting.
 

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jimsflh
This thought crossed my mind too, especially since it was a cross walk.
I was NOT a cross walk that crossed the two lane road we were on. It was the start of the walkway/crosswalk to the front of the school. I am sorry I didn't include a diagram.

Yes I have learned to not trust the other guy. I have also learned there are many plenty of people in this forum that are arm chair quarterbacks, who weren't present and enjoy passing judgement.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sagido
I was NOT a cross walk that crossed the two lane road we were on. It was the start of the walkway/crosswalk to the front of the school. I am sorry I didn't include a diagram.

Yes I have learned to not trust the other guy. I have also learned there are many plenty of people in this forum that are arm chair quarterbacks, who weren't present and enjoy passing judgement.

Hang in here & hold your ground! You were the victim here! I have been a LEO for the past 25 years!
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sagido
I was NOT a cross walk that crossed the two lane road we were on. It was the start of the walkway/crosswalk to the front of the school. I am sorry I didn't include a diagram.

Yes I have learned to not trust the other guy. I have also learned there are many plenty of people in this forum that are arm chair quarterbacks, who weren't present and enjoy passing judgement.
Originally Posted by Sagido
On our route, less than a mile from home. We were passing our high school campus, with tons of traffic because of a wrestling tournament. As we moved closer to the school, cars were parked on both sides of the road. A small SUV we had been traveling behind for over half a mile moves over to the right, and appears to be stopping at the crosswalk to let someone out.
Sorry I listened to what you said, instead of what you meant to say.

Either way it was in front of a school during an event, all I was saying was passing wasn't the smartest choice you could have made. I agree the other operator was wrong, but as I said before, luckily injury was minimum, and hopefully you learned a valuable lesson.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by jimsflh
Sorry I listened to what you said, instead of what you meant to say.

Either way it was in front of a school during an event, all I was saying was passing wasn't the smartest choice you could have made. I agree the other operator was wrong, but as I said before, luckily injury was minimum, and hopefully you learned a valuable lesson.
I didn't realize I was going to be so criticized for sharing. Glad you have pointed out an obvious error. We are gratefull it wasnt worse
 

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 03:30 PM
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When somebody pulls over and stops, one would assume they use signal lights and look before rolling again. The fact that she has pulled over and stopped, in itself isn't normal operating procedure, unless there is a line of vehicles in front of her causing her to stop. Even though it was her lane. She gave it up when she pulled over to let somebody out. Luckily she admitted to it and knew better.
She needs to be forced to take driving lessons again and have her eyes and hearing checked, which i think should me mandatory for boneheads that cause accidents.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 05:23 PM
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This was an accident sadly waiting to happen. As bikers we have to be more aware of stupid cagers because they don't look. Sadly we can't catch 100% of their mistakes.

In this case she was going to do a U turn. Obviously she knew she needed to have more room and moved to the right. The problem was she didn't check for traffic behind her. She probably looked in front but glanced once in the rear view and pulled out.

By the time she saw the bike she was already committed to the mistake and the accident happened.

Still glad you and your wife is okay.
 
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