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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:21 PM
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Am I the only one wondering why these threads about wrecks never mention calling the Law Tigers or other biker lawyer firms? Do these "speciality" firms suck that bad?

Also, I'd say not to sue. Just get made whole and don't be out any money. "OMG SUE SUE SUE" is what's ruining this country IMO.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
Am I the only one wondering why these threads about wrecks never mention calling the Law Tigers or other biker lawyer firms? Do these "speciality" firms suck that bad?

Also, I'd say not to sue. Just get made whole and don't be out any money. "OMG SUE SUE SUE" is what's ruining this country IMO.
Are you a mindless sapp? It's the game of life my clueless friend. That lady's a dumb ***, but thankfully she was smart enough to be carrying Insurance. Her company cares about ONE thing. Paying as little as possible. Paint over the damage and so what if the frames just a little tweeked. Oh, and we'll take care of your co-pay for your antibiotic ontment....give me a break.

They'd just love it if everybody had the same mind set as you...just take whatever crumbs they toss your way. HELL NO. The OP needs to stick it to em, and get every dime he deserves.

Life is a game OK, and if your not willing to fight your guts out, your gonna lose. If your not willing to play tuff, your bringing a knife to a gun fight with any Insurance company.

Wise up.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by sl33py
ouch - not much sympathy there "brother".

Seems like you don't care, and are more than happy to rub in the fact your bike is "unbent". Can't say the same about the rider.

Sympathy is the ability to empathize with someone who is hurt. Real or perceived. I'd still help someone up from the ground even if it was their fault. Messing up your bike sucks. Cagers always win. U-Turns w/o blinkers (says witnesses) can kill folks.

I hope if this happens to you in the future, your fellow riders are a bit more compassionate with you. Deserving or not.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Montana Cowboy
Are you a mindless sapp? It's the game of life my clueless friend. That lady's a dumb ***, but thankfully she was smart enough to be carrying Insurance. Her company cares about ONE thing. Paying as little as possible. Paint over the damage and so what if the frames just a little tweeked. Oh, and we'll take care of your co-pay for your antibiotic ontment....give me a break.

They'd just love it if everybody had the same mind set as you...just take whatever crumbs they toss your way. HELL NO. The OP needs to stick it to em, and get every dime he deserves.

Life is a game OK, and if your not willing to fight your guts out, your gonna lose. If your not willing to play tuff, your bringing a knife to a gun fight with any Insurance company.

Wise up.
He didn't lose life or a limb, and he hasn't suffered a life changing disability - at best it's a inconvenience. Should this lady's insurance company have to pay 100% of all monies he's out or lost due to the accident? Sure. Should he sue for extra? Hell no.

People trying to cash in and retire over a minor accident is one of the reasons our insurance is so high today. They will pay out millions for a hangnail and then recoup that money from you and me next refresh cycle.

I suppose you and I have a different idea of how to play the game of life, "friend". Hopefully some toddler doesn't slip in your driveway some day and decide they need a new house, bike, car, and savings account. Karma's a bitch like that.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 09:53 AM
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I know the title is blaming cagers, but U-turn collisions are a very common problem with motorcyclist. I’m not sure why, but I was talking with a dealer the other day who told the same story while riding to Sturgis last summer. He and another rider were passing a couple of bikers parked along side the road when they both pulled out to do a U-Turn. His partner was a head of him and hit one of the bikes broadside. Both riders had broken bones and both bikes where totaled.

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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To the OP, you tried to pass a moving car in the same lane the car was legally controlling, and you don't think you are a bit at fault?
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Markk9
To the OP, you tried to pass a moving car in the same lane the car was legally controlling, and you don't think you are a bit at fault?
I just got off the phone with the responding officer. Witness statements say the SUV "stopped", then made the left in front of me. Yes she partially occupied the lane, but suddenly turned without a signal. I have never tried say that I could not have done something different.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sagido
I just got off the phone with the responding officer. Witness statements say the SUV "stopped", then made the left in front of me. Yes she partially occupied the lane, but suddenly turned without a signal. I have never tried say that I could not have done something different.
No doubt that, if she had the signal going, you would have stopped. It's up to her to make sure nobody's coming or passing before starting to roll again.
Matter of fact, she should be charged with stopping on the road as well. If there is no place to pull off the road, you just keep going till there is. At least in my book!
Amazing what damage a dumm ignorant bitc+ in a car can do. All she had to do is LOOK first. Glad you and wife are ok.

That probably means you'll be without a bike for a long while. Are you going after a rental?
 

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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Sagido
I just got off the phone with the responding officer. Witness statements say the SUV "stopped", then made the left in front of me. Yes she partially occupied the lane, but suddenly turned without a signal. I have never tried say that I could not have done something different.
There is no partially occupied, just like with a bike, it was her lane. I'm not saying the car is not at fault, she is more at fault than you are. If she was stopped and made the turn in front of you, she is 100% at fault. If she was still moving, even 5 mph, then the car and you are at fault, 80/20 split.

Please don't take this as I'm finding fault with you, it's always a live and learn on the street.
 
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Old Apr 16, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by HeyYou
He didn't lose life or a limb, and he hasn't suffered a life changing disability - at best it's a inconvenience. Should this lady's insurance company have to pay 100% of all monies he's out or lost due to the accident? Sure. Should he sue for extra? Hell no.

People trying to cash in and retire over a minor accident is one of the reasons our insurance is so high today. They will pay out millions for a hangnail and then recoup that money from you and me next refresh cycle.

I suppose you and I have a different idea of how to play the game of life, "friend". Hopefully some toddler doesn't slip in your driveway some day and decide they need a new house, bike, car, and savings account. Karma's a bitch like that.
All the acuary tables are factored into this "Insurance division" in the game of life. Yep, our rates reflect the payouts insurance companies reflect (plus thier heafty profit margins). I get it. That's why I pay my premiums on time....and also why I carry plenty of liability coverage. I know the rules. It's for that exact reason I suggest not sitting back like a boob and allowing an underwriter to screw me so he can get a pat on the back by his boss, and maybe a little bonus to boot.

Every game has its rules, reff's, penelties, and fine points. In this situation, a lawyer is sort of a highly paid coach. The OP took a shot to the head, might need plastic surgery. It's hard to look into the future and see what might be needed after a puny settlement check is cashed.

Just like the professional athlete prepairs for a contest by stacking as many chips on his side before the game begins...by studying game films, getting good sleep and nutrition, and listening to any pointers and suggestions by his coach and training staff have to offer, a fella facing a Insurance company should be ready to battle for all he can get.......

I'm not saying pick up a pait of cruches and fake a injury. Those people are no better then any other crook that feeds on society. I'm saying think about the variables, protect yourselve against worse case senerios, and if necessary seek councle for a professional's opinion before rolling over like a good doggie and having your nose rubbed in it.

Look, what you do if this ever happens to you is of no concern of mine. And don't worry about me is a kid slips in my yard, or God forbid someday I get my own head up my keester and am at fault in a wreak of my own. I'm financially covered. As far as Karma, I sleep real good.
 
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