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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 03:48 PM
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What are the advantages and disadvantages of a 2 into 1 compared to a true dual exhaust?
 
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 03:52 PM
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From what I can gather on this forum, the True Duals lack the ability to scavenge from a cross over pipe. That being said you lose some low end torque but gain horsepower on the high end.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 04:18 PM
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Well the head pipe dept. has come along way,IMHO 2/1 pipe extracts every bit of what's in the motor,Mr x pipes on the market do agreat job of balance for power and torque.I myself have both 2/1 on a131 ci max perf. 2/1/2 head pipe on my tourin bike plus the balance look if your into that many many factors.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 05:54 PM
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2-1 will give you the most overall power, True duals will will have less lower rpm torque. Basicly it's looks vs. performance.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 06:03 PM
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...when exhaust headers are connected, as a pulse of exhaust from one cylinder exits the pipe, it leaves a low pressure zone behind it- when the adjoining cylinder is on it's intake stroke, that low pressure zone creates suction which can result in a cylinder fill ( or "charge" of more than 100% as the incoming intake air and fuel is moving at high(er) speed.

this is all affected by the cam overlap ( the period in which the intake and exhaust valves are both open.

if you crawl under any car, you will see that the exhaust headers are all connected, and even the 2 sides of a V8 have a crossover or X pipe.
there is alot of science to ensure that cam choice and pipes work together.

this effect is called scavenging and is free power


the reason that P51 Mustangs and Top Fuel drag cars use individual pipes for each cylinder is that they do not need to make power from 1000 to 5500 RPMs, those motors are designed to run is a narrow high rpm range and prop pitch or clutch slip is used to control the power output....and you've heard those things can barely idle without sounding like they'll poop


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Old Apr 14, 2013 | 09:14 PM
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2-1 less weight.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 04:10 AM
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I'm going back to these http://www.mgscustombikes.com/mgs-exhaust/true-duals/. Nothing sounds as good as true dual, and these will perform.
 
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Old Apr 15, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by mike5511
I'm going back to these http://www.mgscustombikes.com/mgs-exhaust/true-duals/. Nothing sounds as good as true dual, and these will perform.
+1 on the MGS system.....
 
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I have used TDs and now a 2-into-1 on the same bike, both set up on the same dyno. As mentioned above, TDs work better in a particular rev range, whereas a 2-into-1 works over a wider rev range.

In the case of my bike I lost 1HP changing from TDs, gained a few TQ, but the low/mid range is 15% stronger. In addition the engine is much smoother running and also much nicer to ride. I love the improved performance, especially the unexpected improved ride. Current numbers are 101HP and 107TQ.
 
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