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Old May 20, 2013 | 08:36 AM
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Here's the lowdown : I have stock 96 ci with SE heavy breather, 4"Rinehart slip ons. I have the PCV and auto tune.
Dilema: I have the Fullsac X-Pipes head pipe not installed. I have not installed the auro tune or wideband O2 sensors. The map I have loaded in the PVC is from Fuelmoto and built for auto tune and X-Pipes. I am a bit apprehensive about the wiring in changing out the O2 sensors and would like to wait to have a tech friend lend his experienced hand. Would I be ok to run the current setup or should I load a different map?
 
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Old May 20, 2013 | 10:02 AM
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If you got the PCV from Fuelmoto, you should have also gotten a CD with a bunch of canned tunes, or you can download them from the website (Dynojet's web site, canned tune 15-011-002 looks close).

Just run a canned tune that's close until you get your autotune hooked up again.

http://www.powercommander.com/downlo...15-011-002.pvm
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Old May 20, 2013 | 02:24 PM
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Other than the O2 sensors, I don't think there is much difference in the X-pipe and stock header. The X-pipe I have uses the stock crossover pipe.
 
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Old May 21, 2013 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stew Pidaso
Here's the lowdown : I have stock 96 ci with SE heavy breather, 4"Rinehart slip ons. I have the PCV and auto tune.
Dilema: I have the Fullsac X-Pipes head pipe not installed. I have not installed the auro tune or wideband O2 sensors. The map I have loaded in the PVC is from Fuelmoto and built for auto tune and X-Pipes. I am a bit apprehensive about the wiring in changing out the O2 sensors and would like to wait to have a tech friend lend his experienced hand. Would I be ok to run the current setup or should I load a different map?
Have you done the AutoTune Basic yet? You don't need the Wideband sensors to do the AutoTune Basic and it is definitely an important part of the tuning process with the Power Vision, even with the tune FuelMoto sends you.

AutoTune Basic will dial in the tune and adjust the VE table for your bike. The VE table is where the sensors measure the airflow of YOUR bike. Getting that spot on with allow YOUR bike to be dialed in. (Volumetric Efficiency)

Once you do install the new pipe you'll need to run AutoTune basic again,.or AutoTune Pro with the new WB sensors.
 
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Old May 21, 2013 | 06:45 AM
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Just call Fuel Moto and ask them. They provide great support. They can email you a different map if needed.
 
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Old May 21, 2013 | 08:28 AM
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Hippie, No. I haven't even fired up the bike yet. Bike is in the paint shop.

I installed my SE Heavy breather and the PCV. I have not installed the X-pipes or WB O2 sensors and auto tune.

Heavymetal, I did email Fuelmoto. They told me I need the O2 sensor block offs.

I imagine my best bet would be to man up put on my big boy pants and tackle the X-pipe install along with the WB O2 sensors and auto tune.

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Just take it to a reputable tuner and have him custom build you a map for it and call it good.
No need for an auto tune or those sensors either.
Disconnect em' and plug the holes with bungs and call it good.
That's my set up.
 
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Old May 21, 2013 | 10:17 AM
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what year bike? the auto tune 02 sensors are 18mm and the 2010 &up has 12mm 02 sensors you'll have to look on you fulsac pipe to see if they fit.if they fit install the auto tune the accept your trims accordingly
 
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Originally Posted by Stew Pidaso
Here's the lowdown : I have stock 96 ci with SE heavy breather, 4"Rinehart slip ons. I have the PCV and auto tune.
Dilema: I have the Fullsac X-Pipes head pipe not installed. I have not installed the auro tune or wideband O2 sensors. The map I have loaded in the PVC is from Fuelmoto and built for auto tune and X-Pipes. I am a bit apprehensive about the wiring in changing out the O2 sensors and would like to wait to have a tech friend lend his experienced hand. Would I be ok to run the current setup or should I load a different map?
Originally Posted by oldhippie
Have you done the AutoTune Basic yet? You don't need the Wideband sensors to do the AutoTune Basic and it is definitely an important part of the tuning process with the Power Vision, even with the tune FuelMoto sends you.

AutoTune Basic will dial in the tune and adjust the VE table for your bike. The VE table is where the sensors measure the airflow of YOUR bike. Getting that spot on with allow YOUR bike to be dialed in. (Volumetric Efficiency)

Once you do install the new pipe you'll need to run AutoTune basic again,.or AutoTune Pro with the new WB sensors.
Op states he has a PC-V, is there a Basic Auto Tune for the PC-V?
 
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Originally Posted by Stew Pidaso
Here's the lowdown : I have stock 96 ci with SE heavy breather, 4"Rinehart slip ons. I have the PCV and auto tune.
Dilema: I have the Fullsac X-Pipes head pipe not installed. I have not installed the auro tune or wideband O2 sensors. The map I have loaded in the PVC is from Fuelmoto and built for auto tune and X-Pipes. I am a bit apprehensive about the wiring in changing out the O2 sensors and would like to wait to have a tech friend lend his experienced hand. Would I be ok to run the current setup or should I load a different map?
I am and it's running fine....I retarded the timing some on the map FM sent me but it runs like a raped ape and averages 43MPG......I'm totally happy with that.
 
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