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Moderate decel popping

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:01 AM
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Default Moderate decel popping

I've got it from 2,100RPM on down after the engine is warmed up. I'm thinking it is either intake or exhaust leak or both. How do you check for these? I tried cigar smoke but couldn't tell from that. Any ideas how to check for intake and exhaust leaks?

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Old 06-06-2013, 08:10 AM
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Could be a couple of things. Exhaust leak, sure. Could even be the type of exhaust and baffle. Im getting some pop due to running a cylindrical type baffle in my Vance and Hines straight shot slip-on's. There is not much for restriction so lot's of air in there for igniting unburned fuel on decal. Or it could be you need to fine tune air fuel ratio for when you roll off the throttle. The way I understand it, when you roll off throttle, both intake and exhaust valves are open for a bit for EPA reasons and causes unburned fuel to pass through to the exhaust where if like my muffles which are open, mixes with all the air and wa la decel pop!! But dont hold me to this as law, just what I understand. Im sure if in my case I switched to Rush with a hour glass shaped baffle, I would not get decel pop in which case would be cheaper and easier than messing with running, dyno's, and all that crap. Im not looking to race the guy next to me to the next bar. I just want to enjoy the ride.
 
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Old 06-06-2013, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by heritageblue2013
...The way I understand it, when you roll off throttle, both intake and exhaust valves are open for a bit for EPA reasons...
The timing of the valves are mechanical and has nothing to do with the EPA. Valve overlap has been happening just about since day 1...



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...Im sure if in my case I switched to Rush with a hour glass shaped baffle, I would not get decel pop in which case would be cheaper and easier than messing with running, dyno's, and all that crap...
Your knowledge/understanding of decel popping is suspect. To state that simply switching out parts instead of determining where and under what conditions the pop occurs by way of properly diagnosing the problem (dyno's and all that crap) is truly the amateur way of doing things.
 
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Old 06-07-2013, 05:00 PM
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Anyone know how to check for intake and exhaust leaks?
 
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Old 06-07-2013, 08:15 PM
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Had my bike dyno tuned and solved my decal popping. Bike runs much smoother and cooler as well.
 
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Originally Posted by 2manytoys
Anyone know how to check for intake and exhaust leaks?
There's a couple of methods, but dont you think it may be a Powervision problem? Maybe a new flash is needed.
 
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Simple way for intake is to spray a little ignitable substance such as carb cleaner at the intake ports while the bike is idling. If idle speed changes, the intake is suckin it in. Exhaust, check for carbon footprints around the pipe junctions.
 
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Originally Posted by Gunnysgt
Simple way for intake is to spray a little ignitable substance such as carb cleaner at the intake ports while the bike is idling. If idle speed changes, the intake is suckin it in. Exhaust, check for carbon footprints around the pipe junctions.


Most popping is due to an improper tune rather than a leak. Leaks can contribute, but it's likely your tune.
 
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When I get decal popping I take a moment to check the torque on the exhaust header nuts. Once they are snugged down the bike is quiet again for awhile. It's and easy two minute fix.
 
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Originally Posted by 2manytoys
Anyone know how to check for intake and exhaust leaks?
For spotting intake or vacuum leaks I apply isopropyl alcohol.
 

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