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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 09:33 AM
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So, Friday, it was a moderate 91 degrees. (I know other areas of the country are getting their share of high temps of late and 91 may not be all that warm where you are)
Rode to a friend's shop about 20 miles from me, and it was 91 degrees out on the way back home. My engine temp ( reading my PV ) was reading 255 on the freeway, and when i proceeded to travel the mile or so from the off ramp to my house, sat for two lights and 35 mph speed limit, i did watch the temp readout climb at the stop light to 285 and then the heat management cut in where the 1 cylinder cuts out.

I was wondering since these HD's are air cooled, if prolonged operational engine temp of 285 to 300 is cause for concern?

I don't ride much in in-town traffic, but I can well imagine that riding in stop and go traffic in 90+ degree weather would certainly get engine temps over 285.

For those that ride in areas that experience 90 degree+ temps as more of the norm, what engine temps do you encounter and do you run a engine cooling fan?
What do you do for cooling things down ? Do you avoid stop and go in city riding?

I do have the factory ( small ) oil cooler and run M-1 Vtwin synthetic oil.

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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 09:36 AM
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personally my opinion is that if the bike gets too hot for me to handle , I'll pull over and cool off some. I think the bike is designed to take the heat. So if I start overheating the bike gets a break also.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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Just posted similar question a few days ago about my PV reading engine temps between 280 - 290 on hot 92 degree ride. Seems this is quite normal on the newer bikes based on the responses I received. Although, my rear cylinder did not shut down at these temps? Bike just seems a bit weaker when it gets that hot...
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by mgmmgm
...I was wondering since these HD's are air cooled, if prolonged operational engine temp of 285 to 300 is cause for concern?
HD has a test facility in Alabama (next to the Talladega Speedway). During the summer months, they park a stock Harley they're testing out on the asphalt, surround it by metal sheets on four sides, start it up, and let it idle. They just leave it there until it normally runs out of gas. Then they let it cool, gas it up, and then beat the crap out of it lap after lap on the speedway.

I use to live in Atlanta and during the warmer times of the year, high engine temps were the norm.

I knew of no one that had a cooling fan on the bike, most did use synthetic oil, many had the cat removed, and nearly everyone had a good tune to help with the temps.

Hope that helps...
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 01:06 PM
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I would think that the modern vtwin can handle a broad range of temperatures. eitms and common sense use of breaks during hot weather will be fine. I am however an owner and a fan (pun intended) of Jason Ward's FCS fans. Disgustingly hot and humid here and temp management never cut in once. So can the bike handle it? Yes. Can you do things to help? Yes. One more thing IMHO. Good oil and proper weight oil for the temperature conditions. Synthetics will help as well.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:08 PM
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The EITMS is for rider comfort only, it's not there to save the bike from the heat. Run synthetic oil, change it every 5,000 miles, ignore the temperature gauge, and enjoy your ride.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:17 PM
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The EITMS is for rider comfort only, it's not there to save the bike from the heat. Run synthetic oil, change it every 5,000 miles, ignore the temperature gauge, and enjoy your ride.
eitms is a marketing gimmick pure and simple. Does next to nothing. Other than that I agree with you. That cat blazing doesn't shut down when eitms kicks in. No savings in comfort.
 
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Old Jun 30, 2013 | 02:41 PM
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My recipe for the heat (desert): Make sure the bike isn't running 'lean'. Run synthetic oil. Get an oil-cooler. Don't restrict air to engine (remove lowers, etc.) during summer. I have ridden in some pretty hot weather without problems. As long as you're moving at a good clip on level road, you shouldn't have an issue. Uphill? Might cause a problem. Stop and go? Again, might be a problem. Personally, if my bike went into 'single cylinder' mode, I'd pull over in the shade, shut it down, and wait.

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Originally Posted by 12hdrk
I would think that the modern vtwin can handle a broad range of temperatures. eitms and common sense use of breaks during hot weather will be fine. I am however an owner and a fan (pun intended) of Jason Ward's FCS fans. Disgustingly hot and humid here and temp management never cut in once. So can the bike handle it? Yes. Can you do things to help? Yes. One more thing IMHO. Good oil and proper weight oil for the temperature conditions. Synthetics will help as well.
+1 for Jasons FCS, I got it and won't leave home with out it. A work of art and as functional as can be. Check it out your bike won't loose the rear cylinder again.
 
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