Clutch Adjustment...what did i do different?
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Tourer
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I assume you mean a half turn.
And I don't know if it matters, but I never pull the lever a few times until I've adjusted the cable out to approximately where I'll set it first.
Regardless, with the adjuster totally loose, if the clutch is still slipping, the problem must be in there. I'm really curious as to what the shop says.
And I don't know if it matters, but I never pull the lever a few times until I've adjusted the cable out to approximately where I'll set it first.
Regardless, with the adjuster totally loose, if the clutch is still slipping, the problem must be in there. I'm really curious as to what the shop says.
yea that manual states to do that to set the ball and ramp...it probably doesnt matter all too much..
man i wish i didnt even touch it lol
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I agree with Stiggy here. With no pressure on the clutch it should not slip. I would think the last place to look would be in the clutch pack. I could be wrong but god, it is such a simple system, I can't see what else it could be. Myself, I would be tempted to pull the clutch pack apart and clean, inpect and re-oil everything...but that's just me.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
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I agree with Stiggy here. With no pressure on the clutch it should not slip. I would think the last place to look would be in the clutch pack. I could be wrong but god, it is such a simple system, I can't see what else it could be. Myself, I would be tempted to pull the clutch pack apart and clean, inpect and re-oil everything...but that's just me.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
thx man, yea i just dont know,.im so frustrated i dont even want to deal with it anymore, i want to ride and get over it .. ..
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From: CT
I agree with Stiggy here. With no pressure on the clutch it should not slip. I would think the last place to look would be in the clutch pack. I could be wrong but god, it is such a simple system, I can't see what else it could be. Myself, I would be tempted to pull the clutch pack apart and clean, inpect and re-oil everything...but that's just me.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
I feel bad for you, hope you get it worked out soon.
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I usually love to throw in my two-cents on these clutch adjustment threads but I've refrained so far for a couple of reasons. First, I'm on a bike vacation and I haven't spent much time here, and second, this problem the OP is experiencing is quite unique. There has to be some missing information that isn't coming across in this thread.
Now a few comments. As for the ball/ramp assembly. Unless the snap-ring comes undone from the cover the ball/ramp assembly cannot come apart. The chances of the snap-ring coming undone are so miniscule that in most cases checking here is a waste of time.
As for the clutch lever binding (rock solid) halfway, that can only be caused by the clutch pack reaching it's mechanical limits. And if that's the case, like Stiggy said, you must be starting from a partially disengaged state. And starting from a partially disengeged state seems to correlate with the fact that the clutch is slipping as reported by the OP.
I don't know what the real problem is and it will be interesting to find out, but with the information presented to this point I'd have to agree with those who suggest the problem to be in the clutch pack itself.
I'll be watching... but probably mostly from the sidelines.
Now a few comments. As for the ball/ramp assembly. Unless the snap-ring comes undone from the cover the ball/ramp assembly cannot come apart. The chances of the snap-ring coming undone are so miniscule that in most cases checking here is a waste of time.
As for the clutch lever binding (rock solid) halfway, that can only be caused by the clutch pack reaching it's mechanical limits. And if that's the case, like Stiggy said, you must be starting from a partially disengaged state. And starting from a partially disengeged state seems to correlate with the fact that the clutch is slipping as reported by the OP.
I don't know what the real problem is and it will be interesting to find out, but with the information presented to this point I'd have to agree with those who suggest the problem to be in the clutch pack itself.
I'll be watching... but probably mostly from the sidelines.
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I usually love to throw in my two-cents on these clutch adjustment threads but I've refrained so far for a couple of reasons. First, I'm on a bike vacation and I haven't spent much time here, and second, this problem the OP is experiencing is quite unique. There has to be some missing information that isn't coming across in this thread.
Now a few comments. As for the ball/ramp assembly. Unless the snap-ring comes undone from the cover the ball/ramp assembly cannot come apart. The chances of the snap-ring coming undone are so miniscule that in most cases checking here is a waste of time.
As for the clutch lever binding (rock solid) halfway, that can only be caused by the clutch pack reaching it's mechanical limits. And if that's the case, like Stiggy said, you must be starting from a partially disengaged state. And starting from a partially disengeged state seems to correlate with the fact that the clutch is slipping as reported by the OP.
I don't know what the real problem is and it will be interesting to find out, but with the information presented to this point I'd have to agree with those who suggest the problem to be in the clutch pack itself.
I'll be watching... but probably mostly from the sidelines.
Now a few comments. As for the ball/ramp assembly. Unless the snap-ring comes undone from the cover the ball/ramp assembly cannot come apart. The chances of the snap-ring coming undone are so miniscule that in most cases checking here is a waste of time.
As for the clutch lever binding (rock solid) halfway, that can only be caused by the clutch pack reaching it's mechanical limits. And if that's the case, like Stiggy said, you must be starting from a partially disengaged state. And starting from a partially disengeged state seems to correlate with the fact that the clutch is slipping as reported by the OP.
I don't know what the real problem is and it will be interesting to find out, but with the information presented to this point I'd have to agree with those who suggest the problem to be in the clutch pack itself.
I'll be watching... but probably mostly from the sidelines.
i had to change out my hayden tensioner because one of the springs broke..pull primary cover off, take off the old tensioner and springs, install new tensioner and springs. i said i might as well adjust my clutch while i was in there...loosen lock nut , turn in adjusting nut until slight tension, back off a half turn , tighten lock nut while holding adjusting nut., adjust clutch lever and done.put primary cover back on fluid in , fired the bike up and that was it , felt that was since i made the adjustment?.. i not once touched the clutch basket other than to loosen the lock nut and adjust the adjuster screw?..
please chime in if you have any suggestions...again this isnt my first time adjusting it ..i have done it a few times before with no problems.. ?
thx guys
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i can go through the sequence of events,...
i had to change out my hayden tensioner because one of the springs broke..pull primary cover off, take off the old tensioner and springs, install new tensioner and springs. i said i might as well adjust my clutch while i was in there...loosen lock nut , turn in adjusting nut until slight tension, back off a half turn , tighten lock nut while holding adjusting nut., adjust clutch lever and done.put primary cover back on fluid in , fired the bike up and that was it , felt that was since i made the adjustment?.. i not once touched the clutch basket other than to loosen the lock nut and adjust the adjuster screw?..
please chime in if you have any suggestions...again this isnt my first time adjusting it ..i have done it a few times before with no problems.. ?
thx guys
i had to change out my hayden tensioner because one of the springs broke..pull primary cover off, take off the old tensioner and springs, install new tensioner and springs. i said i might as well adjust my clutch while i was in there...loosen lock nut , turn in adjusting nut until slight tension, back off a half turn , tighten lock nut while holding adjusting nut., adjust clutch lever and done.put primary cover back on fluid in , fired the bike up and that was it , felt that was since i made the adjustment?.. i not once touched the clutch basket other than to loosen the lock nut and adjust the adjuster screw?..
please chime in if you have any suggestions...again this isnt my first time adjusting it ..i have done it a few times before with no problems.. ?
thx guys
I'm pretty new to the clutch adjusting game, most here have much more knowledge and experience than I do.... but I have to ask.....
Did you loosen the cable adjuster, so there was slack in the cable and no tension on the clutch, when you adjusted the clutch basket?
That wasn't mentioned in your sequence of events and that seems to be an important step, mentioned in a clutch adjustment video I watched.....
Not sure how much of a difference that would make.....
Good luck with finding the problem
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I'm pretty new to the clutch adjusting game, most here have much more knowledge and experience than I do.... but I have to ask.....
Did you loosen the cable adjuster, so there was slack in the cable and no tension on the clutch, when you adjusted the clutch basket?
That wasn't mentioned in your sequence of events and that seems to be an important step, mentioned in a clutch adjustment video I watched.....
Motorcycle Repair: How to adjust the clutch on a 2008 Harley Davidson Road Glide - YouTube
Not sure how much of a difference that would make.....
Good luck with finding the problem
Did you loosen the cable adjuster, so there was slack in the cable and no tension on the clutch, when you adjusted the clutch basket?
That wasn't mentioned in your sequence of events and that seems to be an important step, mentioned in a clutch adjustment video I watched.....
Motorcycle Repair: How to adjust the clutch on a 2008 Harley Davidson Road Glide - YouTube
Not sure how much of a difference that would make.....
Good luck with finding the problem
thx though