Anyone Know Why....... I am curious
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Anyone Know Why....... I am curious
I have an "11 RGU, my friend bought a new "13 RGU three weeks ago. I "supervised" his 1k service at 1,200 miles, this is his first Harley. I gave him an old '11 Touring manual I had and told him I didn't think there was much difference in the two service manuals. I did urge him to look in his owner's manual for any changes in fluid capacities. To my surprise, the transmission fluid change calls for 28 oz in his and 32 oz in mine. Does anyone know why there is a difference? Another change is the checking method, both down on the kickstand. Mine, rest the dipstick on the threads and check. His, screw in till o-ring touches, then check. Why the different capacities?
I want even get into the engine oil change differnces between the two at this time.
I want even get into the engine oil change differnces between the two at this time.
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the real point is...things change.
and using a manual for another bike may work...or may not.
specs change as do torque values, sometimes in reaction to observed problems ( such as fall away test specs and tranny end cover bolt torque specs, or owners having problems accurately checking fluids)
where this becomes a problem for the owner is that that they have no way of knowing is specs or procedures have changed- which only the correct manual will show
borrowing a manual for another bike is false economy.
mike
and using a manual for another bike may work...or may not.
specs change as do torque values, sometimes in reaction to observed problems ( such as fall away test specs and tranny end cover bolt torque specs, or owners having problems accurately checking fluids)
where this becomes a problem for the owner is that that they have no way of knowing is specs or procedures have changed- which only the correct manual will show
borrowing a manual for another bike is false economy.
mike
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in either case, specs do change as may the machines from year to year, and there are sometimes mid-production changes as well
use the correct manual, whether owner's manual or the service manual for best results
Mike
use the correct manual, whether owner's manual or the service manual for best results
Mike
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anyone
may be less oil in trany, will solve some probleme .from trany bearing failure and seal.and for the bolts spect that change every year, you are the ginny pig on harley now.mrfuji
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Def Mute,
I didn't apparently make it clear as I would have liked... I gave him an '11 service manual and stated I didn't think there were a lot of differences. I obviously don't know as I do not own or have a '13 sevice manual. Our comparisons were my '11 OWNWER's manual and his '13 OWNERS's manual.
I didn't apparently make it clear as I would have liked... I gave him an '11 service manual and stated I didn't think there were a lot of differences. I obviously don't know as I do not own or have a '13 sevice manual. Our comparisons were my '11 OWNWER's manual and his '13 OWNERS's manual.
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Def Mute,
I didn't apparently make it clear as I would have liked... I gave him an '11 service manual and stated I didn't think there were a lot of differences. I obviously don't know as I do not own or have a '13 sevice manual. Our comparisons were my '11 OWNWER's manual and his '13 OWNERS's manual.
I didn't apparently make it clear as I would have liked... I gave him an '11 service manual and stated I didn't think there were a lot of differences. I obviously don't know as I do not own or have a '13 sevice manual. Our comparisons were my '11 OWNWER's manual and his '13 OWNERS's manual.
Had I taken better notice of your user name, I would not have attempted to correct you the first time. I actually thought that post I referred to last was a thread responder speaking to another responder. Confused yet? Spend some time inside my head, you'll never need drugs!
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I saw another thread about the oil capacity difference and iirc Harley also changed the procedure for measuring the oil. One year says screw in the dipstick, the other year says not to screw it in. Seems like they want a different oil level than before.