Hmmm somewhere I read that dyna beads are not recommended on m/c's, but anyway it says dont use it on anything that corners hard. Ride on is the way to go period. it stays where its needed, seals the tires from punctures and doesnt **** off the tire guy when they spill all over the shop, not to mention round ceramic pellets are slippery as snot and it is one of the hardest substances known to man so if you get that stuff in the garage and it makes its way into engs/trans and other parts, youure looking for a disaster. So unless one tends to ride like a novice and never push their bike I guess its safe to use them. But really do you really want to deal with a mess everytime you replace tires?

 

Dyna beadsa re made by innovative balancing. You can find them http://www.innovativebalancing.com/motorcycle.htm on their site or I have them ins tock and can ship same day.

 

Just a comment how I use beads: I put the wheel on the static balancer first to see approximately how much weight will be needed; some tires may seem to not need any, some can be a few ounces off, and obviously for those the general "one ounce for front, two for rear" won't be enough. I suspect this is why some folks experience vibration with the recommended amount. If you're doing the tires yourself, you can also move the tire around on the balancer before seating the rim to get the best balanced spot, can make a big difference in how much bead you'll need, too. Also, if you use a lube on the tire while putting it on the rim that will stay sticky, and it gets inside, the beads will stick and not do their job. I haven't used beads in a tube, but I don't like tubes on a street bike anyway.

 

Beads will work just fine in a tube. Harder to apply as they obviously must be added through the valve stem.

David

 

if decide on beads i will def order from you as i like to support those who help here as much as i can.
do you sell the sealant by chance?

 

HMMM, funny thing, all the tire installers around here hate the mess the Ride On or other sealant balancing liquid makes when dismounting a tire.

I've run Dyna Beads and the Counteract brand beads and I've had no problems. The lowest profile tires I've used them in was the 180-55 rear tire on my vrod, wore out 3 of them without any issue.

As for not being acceptable for motorcycle use, nah, I'm not buying that.

 

i used these on another bike i had put 2 new tires on and didn't balance either of them. couldn't believe how smooth they made the bike. i installed the beads at a shop right by the highway and before i had come to the end of the on ramp the bike smoothed out. all i can say is they work pretty well.

 

have you watched the video on the ride on site? its not a liquid like slime or other products like it. its almost a gel kinnda stuff. they dismount a tire and show you the product. thats what i liked about it. i can imagine trying to break a tire down with the beads going all over the garage.

looks like im sold on it and see if it helps, it cant hurt anything at this point

 

Here's why they don't (and can't) work.

From the Innovative Balancing website:
OK, that sounds great, but how exactly is that supposed to work?

Let's start with the basics. A tire is mounted to a wheel, which rotates around a centrally-located axle. Simple enough. If that assembly is out of balance, weights can be added to the wheel to balance the assembly. This fixes the balancing weight to the light point on the wheel so that it doesn't shift. The downside to this is that the balance doesn't adapt to tire wear, so there's the possibility of the assembly becoming unbalanced after several thousand miles.

So it would seem to make sense to have a way to dynamically balance the assembly in order to compensate for that wear. The problem is that you simply can't do that on a motorcycle tire by dumping some sort of media inside the tire.

Problem #1 - The inside of a tire isn't flat and smooth. Assuming that all the hype is correct and that the beads will automatically go to the light spot in the rotating assembly, they're going to have a hard time getting there when they're settling in the pits and valleys inside the tire carcass. And what if the light spot is also a high spot?

Problem #2 - The inside of the tire doesn't maintain an equal distance to the center of rotation (the axle). Two problems here actually. First, every rotation of the tire that light spot is going to flatten out (violently) as it hits the pavement. That's going to displace the beads. The rest of the tire is either expanding or contracting as it's spinning. The result is that the light spot is describing an eccentric orbit around the axle, meaning that we don't have true centrifugal motion. What's worse, all the beads are getting displaced every time they come around to the contact patch. At 60mph, that's happening roughly 11 times a second.

Problem #3 - Slam on the brakes, and what's going to happen to those beads? Same thing for hard acceleration. Those are two times you really don't want to fight an unbalanced wheel.

Problem #4 - Look at a motorcycle tire dead-on. The tire is arched (rather than flat like a car tire). Those beads are going to end up somewhere in the centerline of that tire whether the light spot is there or not.

Problem #5 - Keep looking at that motorcycle tire dead-on. Now lean it over at a 30 degree angle and think about how a motorcycle corners. The sidewall deflects, so that the midpoint of the tire is no longer in line with the midpoint of the wheel. How in the hell can that not throw the assembly out of balance? (It will.)

 

I changed my front tire myself. Took off the weights and put in Dyna beads. They seam to work very well. I used a vibrating engraving tool to help vibrate the beads into the valve stem. Dyna beads are for use in MC tires, check out thier web site.