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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
Which one(s) specifically?

The beads are moving across an uneven, beveled surface around an eccentric orbit and being displaced at least once per revolution. Additionally, the orbit is moving in three dimensions at random, and the light spot (for the sake of the discussion) is one inch off of the tire's centerline.

It can't work, no matter what the marketing department says.
I'm not here to teach a class in statics and dynamics, I know the dynamic forces at work and have experience with the real world use of the beads and have found them to be suitable for the purpose intended.

End of story, go debate someone else till your heart's content. I'm off to plan a trip to the mountains of western NC and eastern Tenn where I've found my wheels and tires with the beads work quite well.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 06:53 PM
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I was told they void the tire warranty as well.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:02 PM
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OK I will try a real world test. Here's what I have:
09 RKC with American Elites, new tubes and rubber strips. Tires have less than 1k since mounting and the front wheel has no weight, rear with 1 oz. stick on weight.

Ever since I installed the new tires I have had a buzz in the handlebars that wasn't there with the old tires.

How many ounces do I need for each tire?
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by slammed05fatty
have you watched the video on the ride on site? its not a liquid like slime or other products like it. its almost a gel kinnda stuff. they dismount a tire and show you the product. thats what i liked about it. i can imagine trying to break a tire down with the beads going all over the garage.

looks like im sold on it and see if it helps, it cant hurt anything at this point
Speaking of that, I had my Dunlap front 18" tire replaced this morning due to side wall cracking at a HD Dealer and the guys in the shop asked what's that goo inside the tire. They never heard of Ride-On Sealant. The stuff stays like jelly inside the tire and does not stick to the wheel. It's worked well for me, even though I've only used it for a little over 3000 miles. It's going into the new tire as soon as Eastern Performance deliveries it....Balancing and Flat Protection in a single product, can't beat it.....
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by bigjames4xl
I'm not here to teach a class in statics and dynamics, I know the dynamic forces at work and have experience with the real world use of the beads and have found them to be suitable for the purpose intended.

End of story, go debate someone else till your heart's content. I'm off to plan a trip to the mountains of western NC and eastern Tenn where I've found my wheels and tires with the beads work quite well.
Thank God you're not here to teach, you haven't got a clue. You have done no testing of the beads, you bought the marketing hook, line, and sinker.
 

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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by rwhisen
OK I will try a real world test. Here's what I have:
09 RKC with American Elites, new tubes and rubber strips. Tires have less than 1k since mounting and the front wheel has no weight, rear with 1 oz. stick on weight.

Ever since I installed the new tires I have had a buzz in the handlebars that wasn't there with the old tires.

How many ounces do I need for each tire?
Here's where the marketing fails for some folks. The standard literature will tell you a set amount, probably 1 ounce front, 2 rear for your bike, and that might be overkill or fall short, although it's seldom short. That's why I like to check them on a balancer, minus weights, before putting any in. The one ounce weight is probably close, but almost certainly not spot on; imbalances are seldom that precise. And that's if the guy that put it there even got the right place. I do all my own tire work, but if you're having a shop do any of it, it'd get expensive trying to figure it out and I don't know what to tell you. You didn't say if you did the tires yourself, and if you did, why no weights on the front? That's where I'd suspect the vibration to be coming from. You could always jack at least the front wheel up, pull the calipers back, and see if the tire always comes to rest at the same spot; bad enough to vibrate, it might overcome bearing resistance - I've seen it happen - and that would be the cheapest test. Could even do that before trying beads. If beads reduce the vibration but don't eliminate it, I'd try adding another half ounce at a time, starting with the front. If you go with beads, I'd pull that stick on weight; those things are like bullets if they ever come off at speed anyway - there's folks with stories about that on this forum.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by EasTexUltra12
All that crappola is very impressive. Nice job

However, I've used them in many tires for many years and they work. That's all I need to know. You can keep all that other stuff.

Ride Safe

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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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I use counteract. I mount my own tires and never had them go all over the place when changing. They work well!
 
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Originally Posted by '05Train
Thank God you're not here to teach, you haven't got a clue. You have done no testing of the beads, you bought the marketing hook, line, and sinker.


It's probably time to quit. We all know how you feel and could care less. Since you seem to know so much more than everyone else, you'll save the cost of the beads.Congrats, your education has payed off. Unlike my poor ignorant self who uses only 60K+ miles of experience. Damn....I hope I didn't waste my money!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2013 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by '05Train
Thank God you're not here to teach, you haven't got a clue. You have done no testing of the beads, you bought the marketing hook, line, and sinker.
I'm on my 5th tire and have changed every one of them.. I have never had them" spill all over" and have scooped them out of the old tire and reused them in the new tire..
They have all worn evenly and have never had any vibration..

They work.... end of story
 
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