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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 11:41 AM
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My 05 EG Standard is acting up. When I start it every time it turns over but it's like it strains on the first revolution then takes off and spins the engine normally. Thought it was the battery, checked it and it's good, wondering about the solenoid. Any thoughts?
 
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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Original starter? Sounds like its fixing to go **** up if you have load tested the battery and its good. You could also try cleaning your frame grounds to, if they get corroded all kinds of weird things start to happen, worth a shot. Good luck with your scoot.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:07 PM
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I would load test the battery. How old is it? I had the same problem with my 05 Standard, it would try very hard to get over that first stroke and then it would spin the engine at a normal speed or so I thought. Put in a new battery and now it turns it over no problem.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by timbex
I would load test the battery. How old is it? I had the same problem with my 05 Standard, it would try very hard to get over that first stroke and then it would spin the engine at a normal speed or so I thought. Put in a new battery and now it turns it over no problem.
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My 2011 did the same thing for about 2 weeks. Would 'grunt' for the first revolution, then would spin normally. Then the battery just went south on me. Voltage dropped to 9 volts by just turning the ignition switch without trying to start
 
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Old Sep 19, 2013 | 02:46 PM
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usual first checks are battery, fully charge with charger ( not trickle) then load test.
check cables for internal corrosion, clean and tighten connection at both ends. some models have a ground strap from the inner primary to the frame- check that too.

2nd.
any motor stops on the compression stroke when turned off ( all of them).
when you hit the switch, the motor is at the highest point of compression- just before Top Dead Center ( TDC)
so:
flick the switch, that'll either push the piston over TDC- OR the piston will rebound back down the bore...either way, when you next press and hole the starter button, the starter can build momentum before hitting compression again.


hot starts are always harder than cold starts- a hot starter, cabling, battery has more resistance- and the expanded pistons and rings have a better seal, so more compression in the cylinder(s)

OP, if you think the solenoid is a problem, it is as easily serviced as a chevy. a solenoid which chatters (due to low voltage) is damaging itself internally


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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 07:29 PM
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I would clean and tighten all connections on battery along with the frame ground if that doesnt work get a new battery.
 
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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 10:12 PM
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Had the same problem with mine a few weeks ago. I was going to replace my starter with one a body took off his bike. When we went to take the cables off the starter my ground cable broke right off from the ring terminal the bolt goes through. Put a new cable on it and haven't had a problem since.
 
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