two faced cam choice
Road Warrior
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From: Monroe, Louisiana
Sounds like some of you guys are more concerned about how the bike sounds at idle than you are about the performance of the cam/engine combination. I don't get that at all. The last thing I would want is to "sound" like the rest of the herd.
To the OP, you have been warned about over-camming....don't do it. Choose the 204 or the 57H and you will be a happy camper. (happier with the 57H imo)
To the OP, you have been warned about over-camming....don't do it. Choose the 204 or the 57H and you will be a happy camper. (happier with the 57H imo)
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Son in law has TW 555 with 40 degrees overlap in 2012 FLHTK and you can hardly tell it is in there. It runs great and has plenty of low end and mid range torque. There are plenty of 777's running around here that work great with 42 degrees. I wouldn't put them in a 96 or 88, but work good in 103's and 110's.
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I have SE 204's sitting in the garage waiting to be put into my '11 Ultra. I read a ton before and since buying them, and I think it'll be a great choice. I think most tourers live in the 2500-4000 range the majority of the time, probably pretty true for a bagger too. Sounds to me like the 204's pull well in that range, like the stock 103's compression and, as a bonus, have a nice little bit of lope at idle. And yeah, sound is one of the things I enjoy about my bikes. It looks looks like TW-222's get similar results, but I was able to get the SE's for about $100 less, and I've heard more favorable comments about the SE's than the TW's as far as valve train noise.
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Well, might ought to get my two cents in as well. Go over to another web site (HTT) and look in the dyno section. Steve at GMR did two 103 builds and other than cams almost identical. Andrews 57 and SE204's. Same 90hp from both but the 204's squeezed more tq than did the 57's. And the 204's will sound better and I don't know where the other rider gets they are hard to deal with at low idle sort of. I've had them in my bike for 25,000 miles and never once have I regretted it. They also will pull to around 5800 rpm's in my bike.
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Andrews designed the 48 just for 96" baggers. I have them in a se 103 (that has a shade less compression than the 96) and I love them. 100 tq at 2200 rpm. Due to my 103 having less compression, my numbers are very similar to the 96. I could go with a 030 head gasket and do a little better, but it's a stump puller like it is. The 48's are a non emission version of the 255's
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Well, might ought to get my two cents in as well. Go over to another web site (HTT) and look in the dyno section. Steve at GMR did two 103 builds and other than cams almost identical. Andrews 57 and SE204's. Same 90hp from both but the 204's squeezed more tq than did the 57's. And the 204's will sound better and I don't know where the other rider gets they are hard to deal with at low idle sort of. I've had them in my bike for 25,000 miles and never once have I regretted it. They also will pull to around 5800 rpm's in my bike.
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Well, might ought to get my two cents in as well. Go over to another web site (HTT) and look in the dyno section. Steve at GMR did two 103 builds and other than cams almost identical. Andrews 57 and SE204's. Same 90hp from both but the 204's squeezed more tq than did the 57's. And the 204's will sound better and I don't know where the other rider gets they are hard to deal with at low idle sort of. I've had them in my bike for 25,000 miles and never once have I regretted it. They also will pull to around 5800 rpm's in my bike.
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