Deciding on Cam
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None of those cams are a good choice for your stage 1 96! Andrews 48 or woods 222s are very good in 96 bagger. Ya may be ok with 555s and a thinner head gasket if ya want a more aggressive woods cam without bore/pistons/headwork.
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From: vancouver, wa
Looks like I'm going with the 222. Thanks for all the advice
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I, too, may do Andrews 48H cams in my Stage 1 TC96 next Spring. My second choice would be the SE255's.
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From what i can tell the SE255 and 26H do about the same numbers, that is why i want the 48's....Don't get me wrong, the 26's made a BIG difference...
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I had the 48s in my 09 96" and it rocked.
put the 254e in my 12 103 and IMO it lacked what I had with the 48H on my 96. So I talked to Gary Wallace at Andrews and although he recommended the 57H, I kinda went with the train of thought that no one else rides like I do so I went with the 48H again in the 103. I like it much better than the 254e.
What I did experience though is what has been described to me by Steve @ GMR in FT Worth and Dave (Mr Wizard) as too much cam for the clutch so I wound up having to change the stock clutch out to the Barnett +1, Hayden Chain Tensioner, ClutchWiz this past weekend.
So when you cam outperforms your clutch, then IMO that's a good sign.
put the 254e in my 12 103 and IMO it lacked what I had with the 48H on my 96. So I talked to Gary Wallace at Andrews and although he recommended the 57H, I kinda went with the train of thought that no one else rides like I do so I went with the 48H again in the 103. I like it much better than the 254e.
What I did experience though is what has been described to me by Steve @ GMR in FT Worth and Dave (Mr Wizard) as too much cam for the clutch so I wound up having to change the stock clutch out to the Barnett +1, Hayden Chain Tensioner, ClutchWiz this past weekend.
So when you cam outperforms your clutch, then IMO that's a good sign.
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put the 254e in my 12 103 and IMO it lacked what I had with the 48H on my 96. So I talked to Gary Wallace at Andrews and although he recommended the 57H, I kinda went with the train of thought that no one else rides like I do so I went with the 48H again in the 103. I like it much better than the 254e.
What I did experience though is what has been described to me by Steve @ GMR in FT Worth and Dave (Mr Wizard) as too much cam for the clutch so I wound up having to change the stock clutch out to the Barnett +1, Hayden Chain Tensioner, ClutchWiz this past weekend.
What I did experience though is what has been described to me by Steve @ GMR in FT Worth and Dave (Mr Wizard) as too much cam for the clutch so I wound up having to change the stock clutch out to the Barnett +1, Hayden Chain Tensioner, ClutchWiz this past weekend.
So, let me get this straight. Your '09 TC96 and '12 TC103 are both running Andrews 48H cam's, but the TC103 required a heavy duty clutch upgrade?
Hmmm... Were both bikes @ Stage 1 prior to the new cams?
The 96 and 103 are essentially the same bike. I don't understand why you would need a clutch upgrade on the 103. Can you explain this for me?
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96", yes. 103, no. 103 initially had the 254e and had no issue with slippage.
Barnett +1, Hayden chain tensioner to replace that ridiculous excuse of a stock chain tensioner, 480 spring, clutchwiz to lighten the load.. took me longer to drain and replace fluid than it did to change the parts.
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From: knoxville
Go with the 48, you will love it. Don't do what a lot of us have done and think just because it cost $200 more it's better....that isn't always the case, trust me!
