if i were to do it over i would have bought the matzua lowers instead but needed a set for sturgis in a time crunch and bough the soft lowers. they work well but look like crap imho. i still run them on cold mornings into work but will be replaced with hard lowers eventually. the price difference being so minimal with the knockoffs is a no brainer to me. i guess that only counts if you ride a vivid black bike though.