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Old Mar 3, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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When I purchased my 2007 FLHTCU I had the mufflers and air intake changed after the first 1,000 miles. The bike was dyno tuned and a Screamin' Eagle Race Tuner (SERT) was used to adjust the EFI. Needing the necessary SERT cables to adjust the EFI in the future must not have crossed my mind 7+years ago. Fast forward to March 2014. I've been attempting to identify if the cables for a vintage 2007 SERT are available and if they are, what the p/n might be. The Harley Davidson website has come up a little short in terms of aiding my search. Here's the related info:

EFI Race Tuner Kit: p/n 320107-01G
SERT p/n: 32114-01A

This is where I ask for help.

1. Does anyone have this p/n SERT and know exactly what p/n cables are required?

2. If you do have that cable p/n can you tell me if it connects to the computer via a serial port or USB port? The manual (CD that comes with the EFI Race Tuner Kit) indicates you need a RS232 serial port on your computer. None of my laptops are old enough to have come with a serial port. I know there is a serial/usb adaptor that can be purchased. What do you use?

3. P/n 32184-08A(cable set) indicates it is compatible with a 2007 FLHTCU however it doesn't indicate with which EFI tuner. The cable set picture on the Harley web site would suggest, due to incompatible cable ends, that set won't work with my SERT p/n. Has anybody used this cable set with a 2007 SERT (32114-01A)??

Any info you can make available will be appreciated. I know I'm going to the best source of info.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 12:55 AM
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Contact TTS. They have the cable that will work with USB. None of the Harley cables will use USB on the SERT. Been there done that. Also after you get the cables and get the tuner hooked up you won't be able to find tunes for the bike. TTS will upgrade it to a TTS tuner for $100 and you have access to all the maps your heart can want. Works great. All this info is on their site.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 05:47 AM
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Yea what he said.... The current TTS is the former SERT. He's the guy that developed the SERT.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ke5rbd
TTS will upgrade it to a TTS tuner for $100 and you have access to all the maps your heart can want.
I didn't see anything on their website about the $100 upgrade. Is that something you have to call them to get?
 
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Old Mar 4, 2014 | 01:00 PM
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ke5rbd: Thanks for the information. I spoke with TTS-Mastertune this morning. Very helpful people.

I did inquire about the $100 upgrade. Unfortunately they stopped offering that service do to the lack of parts availability required to perform the upgrade.

Thanks again.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 04:20 PM
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Not to mention the USB to serial cable TTS charges $44 for can be found at Best Buy for under $15. Even cheaper elsewhere on line I bet...
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by scooper321
Not to mention the USB to serial cable TTS charges $44 for can be found at Best Buy for under $15. Even cheaper elsewhere on line I bet...
scooper321 appears to have this whole serial/USB cable issue figured out. There is at least one serial/USB cable at Best Buy for $15. Anyone on this forum have hands on experience using a Sreamin Eagle Race Tuner and a specific brand/model serial/USB cable other than the TTS cable?

Anybody?
 
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Old Mar 15, 2014 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by peddler
scooper321 appears to have this whole serial/USB cable issue figured out. There is at least one serial/USB cable at Best Buy for $15. Anyone on this forum have hands on experience using a Sreamin Eagle Race Tuner and a specific brand/model serial/USB cable other than the TTS cable?

Anybody?
Can't really tell if that's a compliment or sarcasm. But if your unit uses an RS232 (serial) port, that's a specific set of signals, locations on the connector and electrical levels. It's a standard. So is USB. So a USB to serial cable just takes USB signals from your USB host (your computer) and translates them into an RS232 serial interface. That's it. That function is not tuner specific. Am I missing something?

In the electronics world, cable manufacturers will kill you on prices.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by peddler
scooper321 appears to have this whole serial/USB cable issue figured out. There is at least one serial/USB cable at Best Buy for $15. Anyone on this forum have hands on experience using a Sreamin Eagle Race Tuner and a specific brand/model serial/USB cable other than the TTS cable?

Anybody?
The SEPST uses a regular usb printer cable from computer to VCI. From VCI to data plug is a serial type plug on the VCI and the 4 or 6 pin data plug. I think the data cable to VCI will work on the SERT. The Serial adapter to usb has electronics converter built in to the serial plug. The $15 will probably work. I didn't know that TTS had discontinued the upgrade. It has been in the last 4 or 5 months as got one near end of last year. I believe if I didn't have lots of experience with the old SERT that I wouldn't consider another tuner. I think they quit building them in 07. Maps will be hard to come by. the SEPST, PV, and TTS all work great and I am sure others do also just don't have first hand experience with others beside the PCV and PCIII.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2014 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by scooper321
Can't really tell if that's a compliment or sarcasm. But if your unit uses an RS232 (serial) port, that's a specific set of signals, locations on the connector and electrical levels. It's a standard. So is USB. So a USB to serial cable just takes USB signals from your USB host (your computer) and translates them into an RS232 serial interface. That's it. That function is not tuner specific. Am I missing something?

In the electronics world, cable manufacturers will kill you on prices.
No sarcasm intended. It makes sense that based on the R232/USB standards any R232/USB cable should work. That being the case I've also received input from multiple sources that have experienced inconsistent results using different R232/USB cables. Indication was some cables work, some don't. So I'm just looking for a recomendation from someone with successful hands on experience with a brand/model specific R232/USB cable.

The other alternative could be to to install a serial port in one of my PCs and use the standard Harley cables.
 
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