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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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I notice on the first page that they state it is "not intended for stock engines". I am curious as to why it should not be put on a stock motor if it is auto tuning? Also, what are the minimun mods that would need to be done to install it? Air cleaner and pipes? Heads and cams?

 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:10 PM
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Phil,

The timeing table that is in the map that I sent you is one that I made. It is in the Excell spreadsheat that I sent you. It is the first table listed called "Cust". I had too much pinging with the HQ table.

Does he have any pinging with this timing table?

Does Bryan's bike have the 615/585 cams?

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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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Phil,

I truly believe this is the way to go. I ordered the Tmax. Do you know what the differences are between the Tmax and the DTT? I read the Tmax was plug and play and the DTT was a little more complicated due to the wiring. Besides that is there anything else? I'm wondering what made you decide on the DTT instead of the Tmax. I called Doug and he only sells the DTT.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:14 PM
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Locknut, I think that's more or a general statement indicting that the ROI may not be as great on a stock'ish bike.

Fact of the matter is that all bikes benefit from proper tune and that static tunes are just that - "static".

It's a dynamic world we live in and things change. Some will like/need/want dynamic tune, some will not.

It has been mentioned that those of us who are always jacking with stuff will benefit the most, and I certainly agree with that.... as I am "one of those" always mess'n with sumthin.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:16 PM
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Does he have any pinging with this timing table?

Does Bryan's bike have the 615/585 cams?
When I rode it, I could not MAKE IT ping! Yes, they are R&R 615/585's.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:23 PM
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I'm wondering what made you decide on the DTT instead of the Tmax. I called Doug and he only sells the DTT.
That was part of it. Since Doug is familiar with the DTT, that was one thing but I also called Zippers to talk about it (twice) and they told me that they had no MAP for me and would not recommend it for my motor. The 2nd time I called and asked about the Geralomy TB, they said "it should" work, but it would be up to me to figure out any quirks that arose.

A couple other motivation factors were that BC Geralomy directly supports the DTT (with their TB's, which I have) and some of Bryan's research with both GMR and Zippers. Steve is also a DTT guy and Zippers told Bryan the same thing they told me... "Not recommended for his build"....

Ironically, Zippers helped me decide....

Oh yea.... I had a DTT on my previous carb'd RG and really liked it, so I had some bias based on personal experience with their products.

Differences: The main thing I know of is that Zippers hides or locks some of timing capabilites from the end user, which in some cases could be a limiting factor.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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Thanks Phil. Your bike looks killer. Also love the wheelie shot. I look at your bike and Bryan’s bike as bench marks for proper performance and smoothness on this forum. Nice Job!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Hey PhilM....why did you decide on DTT over Thundermax? The Thundermax looks easier to install but I know you have done all the research.
I remember a kid in grammar school that had all the cool stuff...I thought I had outgrown that....Now you guys come along!!!!!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:03 PM
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PhilM...see your reply to same question...you answered while I was typing.
Sorry......
 
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Does someone have a link to read up on the DTT ??

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