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Stripped the Tranny plug........HELP!
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Stripped the Tranny plug........HELP!
Yeah, so I'm a dumb*ss.......had a few beverages while changing the tranny fluid on the '12RK, and was talking to my neighbor (who just bought a Sporty and wants to learn as much as she can....."yeah, I'll teach her a few things" I'm thinking to myself......) at the same time. Tightened up the tranny drain plug with what I trout was 14 ftlbs on the torque wrench........like i said, i'm a dumb*ss......but it was set to 44ftlbs.....don't ask me why. So I'm tightening while bullshitting and waiting for the click of the wrench. Well, like Paul Harvey used to say, "now you know the rest of the story".
What's the best way to fix this? Helicoil? Time Sert? Any advice on HOW to do this without removing the trans case? I'll take all the advice I can get.
What's the best way to fix this? Helicoil? Time Sert? Any advice on HOW to do this without removing the trans case? I'll take all the advice I can get.
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Are you sure that no thread filings fell into the trans. If they did that will be problematic. If you are going to fix it with a heli coil, you are going to have to drill out the fill hole and tap for the heli coil. Doing that without getting cuttings in the trans is going to be difficult, but can be done if you take your time and are careful. Good luck.
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Time Sert is ( in my opinion ) much easier to install and much more forgiving. Back in the day when a drain pan would strip and all other options failed we used a rubber plug ( they cam in different sizes ) that had and hex screw that when tightened pulled against a fixed nut inside the plug that would expand and seal the rubber against the hole in the pan, or in your situation the trans case ... just a thought. Good Luck and remember patience is a virtue. Here's a link to something similar http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...er=256832_0_0_
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Ah, "she". You were some kind of distracted to be able to strip the dip stick.
See what stripped first. It might just be the dipstick itself. Otherwise, I think that end cover or plate comes off readily enough. If it isn't very expensive, I'd probably replace it instead of taking the time to try to fix it.
I'd also likely want to take that plate off anyways, just to make sure I got any shavings out of the transmission.
See what stripped first. It might just be the dipstick itself. Otherwise, I think that end cover or plate comes off readily enough. If it isn't very expensive, I'd probably replace it instead of taking the time to try to fix it.
I'd also likely want to take that plate off anyways, just to make sure I got any shavings out of the transmission.
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Ah, "she". You were some kind of distracted to be able to strip the dip stick.
See what stripped first. It might just be the dipstick itself. Otherwise, I think that end cover or plate comes off readily enough. If it isn't very expensive, I'd probably replace it instead of taking the time to try to fix it.
I'd also likely want to take that plate off anyways, just to make sure I got any shavings out of the transmission.
See what stripped first. It might just be the dipstick itself. Otherwise, I think that end cover or plate comes off readily enough. If it isn't very expensive, I'd probably replace it instead of taking the time to try to fix it.
I'd also likely want to take that plate off anyways, just to make sure I got any shavings out of the transmission.
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drain plug fellas....not dipstick. jeez.
OP, the auto parts store will have a couple of solutions for this.
take your drain plug in and try to match up size.
let them know this is into aluminum.
basically a replacement for the drain plug which has a die which will form new threads.
some of these have in the center a sealing plug which will be the new drain plug for the life of the repair.
if cutting new threads like this, aluminum shavings will result. a magnet can't grab them, using axle grease will grab them.
if you work the tool cutting threads, go forward a 1/4 turn at a time, then back off an 1/8th turn
quick emergency fix would be a freeze plug replacement kit. rubber plug with 2 washers and a bolt running through it- tighten the bolt, the rubber squarshes and fills the hole.
the tranny is under almost no internal pressure.
if this is daunting, take the bike to a machine shop- one of the guys there would sort this out
2.) the 44 ftlbs, should never have happened to a rider with experience with tools, that's alot of force.
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
mike
OP, the auto parts store will have a couple of solutions for this.
take your drain plug in and try to match up size.
let them know this is into aluminum.
basically a replacement for the drain plug which has a die which will form new threads.
some of these have in the center a sealing plug which will be the new drain plug for the life of the repair.
if cutting new threads like this, aluminum shavings will result. a magnet can't grab them, using axle grease will grab them.
if you work the tool cutting threads, go forward a 1/4 turn at a time, then back off an 1/8th turn
quick emergency fix would be a freeze plug replacement kit. rubber plug with 2 washers and a bolt running through it- tighten the bolt, the rubber squarshes and fills the hole.
the tranny is under almost no internal pressure.
if this is daunting, take the bike to a machine shop- one of the guys there would sort this out
2.) the 44 ftlbs, should never have happened to a rider with experience with tools, that's alot of force.
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
mike
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2.) the 44 ftlbs, should never have happened to a rider with experience with tools, that's alot of force.
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
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drain plug fellas....not dipstick. jeez.
OP, the auto parts store will have a couple of solutions for this.
take your drain plug in and try to match up size.
let them know this is into aluminum.
basically a replacement for the drain plug which has a die which will form new threads.
some of these have in the center a sealing plug which will be the new drain plug for the life of the repair.
if cutting new threads like this, aluminum shavings will result. a magnet can't grab them, using axle grease will grab them.
if you work the tool cutting threads, go forward a 1/4 turn at a time, then back off an 1/8th turn
quick emergency fix would be a freeze plug replacement kit. rubber plug with 2 washers and a bolt running through it- tighten the bolt, the rubber squarshes and fills the hole.
the tranny is under almost no internal pressure.
if this is daunting, take the bike to a machine shop- one of the guys there would sort this out
2.) the 44 ftlbs, should never have happened to a rider with experience with tools, that's alot of force.
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
mike
OP, the auto parts store will have a couple of solutions for this.
take your drain plug in and try to match up size.
let them know this is into aluminum.
basically a replacement for the drain plug which has a die which will form new threads.
some of these have in the center a sealing plug which will be the new drain plug for the life of the repair.
if cutting new threads like this, aluminum shavings will result. a magnet can't grab them, using axle grease will grab them.
if you work the tool cutting threads, go forward a 1/4 turn at a time, then back off an 1/8th turn
quick emergency fix would be a freeze plug replacement kit. rubber plug with 2 washers and a bolt running through it- tighten the bolt, the rubber squarshes and fills the hole.
the tranny is under almost no internal pressure.
if this is daunting, take the bike to a machine shop- one of the guys there would sort this out
2.) the 44 ftlbs, should never have happened to a rider with experience with tools, that's alot of force.
we have seen more than one rider with new bike and new tools do similar, such as applying foot pounds when inch pounds were spec'd
mike
Good advice. I really don't want any junk in the tranny, so this sounds like a good option.
