does not sound un-reasonable offer from a dealer. ppl are going to have to accept that harleys dont hold value like they used to. the market is beyond flooded with new and used bikes. we are the reason for it not them. they are in it to make money. ppl are letting them have their bike for dirt cheap and they sell new one at premium prices or even a used one.
traded in my 11 SG w/ around 30k,then the dealer sold it for 20,500.... i only paid $20,000 for it new.

 

fair offer. slightly above KBB trade-in. sell it yourself for a couple grand more if you really want a '14.

 

^^Ditto^^

They offered a fair TIV so why would that be a problem?

 

...when a dealer hits you with a trade-in offer...it's the exact moment you realize just how overpriced these are when new!....

 

also keep in mind, the trade value is worth more dollar for dollar than selling out right because you only pay taxes on the the price diff of the 2 bikes when trading instead of total price of new one.

with my local tax rate if new was $24,000 i would have to sell the 2010 for over $1000 more myself just to break even and not mention the time and hassle to try to sell it on your own. they make it quick and easy and we pay for convience

 

OP-someone who steals from you is a thief...hence, the stealer/thief reference. you called the guy a stealer, so you must mean he is a thief/crook. a modern dealership is a multi-million dollar investment with huge monthly expenses. they are not in business to lose money. they would like to make a nice living, pay off the mortgage, put money in the bank, and eventually retire.

to most motorcycle buyers, their purchase is just another toy(things you buy with your disposable income)...boat, snowmobile, golf cart, classic car, second home, rolex watch, the list is endless. hopefully, you did not buy your motorcycle as an investment. the difference between trade-in value and re-sale is where the dealer makes money/profit to cover his overhead. as i said, don't like the offer then just move on--no need to call the dealer names.

 

This^^^
Harley dealers are no different than any other business This is America people have a choice, don't like the dealer or product move on to another...

 

Double post

 

It's all in the context, re-read post 1, and when it is capitalized, it sure sounds to me like you are calling them a thief, ESPECIALLY since you are pissed off about their offer.. I use the term stealer myself, but don't emphasize it.

And Harleys aren't over-priced when new, all brand are taking a hit on trade in.... hell, cars and trucks too. My Cadillac took a 20k hit less than a year old.

 

Dealers make enough on sales for new bikes, merchandise, parts, service, finance, extended warranty, rentals, riding classes, insurance, etc.

Used bike sales, that's gravy.