2014 Touring air filter gasket?
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2014 Touring air filter gasket?
I'm putting a 2014 air cleaner on my 2010 limited. I went online to order the gasket that goes between the filter element and the backplate and notice that the online lookup doesn't show this gasket for the '14s.
I think it's fairly obvious from the diagrams but can someone confirm the 2014 air cleaners don't use this gasket?
It's item #13 in the below pic for the 2010. The second pic is the 2014 diagram and I don't see any gasket.
2014
I think it's fairly obvious from the diagrams but can someone confirm the 2014 air cleaners don't use this gasket?
It's item #13 in the below pic for the 2010. The second pic is the 2014 diagram and I don't see any gasket.
2014
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What #13 does is create a seal between the backplate and filter unit. What is the surface of the '14 backplate like, where such a gasket might fit? The drawing suggests it may have some integral sealing? As you might gather I can't answer your question, but I can read drawings! Perhaps HD came up with a way of eliminating that gasket.
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If you look at all the parts...
The backing plate is sealed to the induction module. And, the filter has a silicone/rubber gasket made into it that seals it to the backing plate. Then, the outer cover is also sealed to the backing plate.
The surface where the older model places a gasket is completely internal. 'Mother MoCo' seems to have found yet another way to save a few pennies, thus increasing their profit margin. Ingenious, ain't it?
Comparing part #14 in the 2010 pic to part #13 in the 2014 pic. See the difference? Perhaps, as grbrown stated, the seal (#13) seals both backing plate to induction module and the air filter, therefore making the gasket in the 2010 pic obsolete?
Or, it could simply be a mistake by the draftsperson...
To further show just cause while blaming the drafsperson, look at parts #14, #1, #3, #15, and #16, (focusing mostly on #14), in the 2014 picture. You see the dashed lines showing where the screws (part#1) go through the holes in #14? Those dashed lines are actually depicting center line of the screws/holes. (The format of the line, long dash/short dash/long dash, etc. is the standard for depicting center lines). Where the center line from the bottom screw crosses the threaded tab for the screw (part#3) that holds parts #15 and #16 to the bracket part #14, the center line should not be shown crossing over that tab. It actually should go under the tab, since it is hidden by the tab. Drafts people make mistakes too...
Yeh, I once wanted to be a mechanical engineer...
The backing plate is sealed to the induction module. And, the filter has a silicone/rubber gasket made into it that seals it to the backing plate. Then, the outer cover is also sealed to the backing plate.
The surface where the older model places a gasket is completely internal. 'Mother MoCo' seems to have found yet another way to save a few pennies, thus increasing their profit margin. Ingenious, ain't it?
Comparing part #14 in the 2010 pic to part #13 in the 2014 pic. See the difference? Perhaps, as grbrown stated, the seal (#13) seals both backing plate to induction module and the air filter, therefore making the gasket in the 2010 pic obsolete?
Or, it could simply be a mistake by the draftsperson...
To further show just cause while blaming the drafsperson, look at parts #14, #1, #3, #15, and #16, (focusing mostly on #14), in the 2014 picture. You see the dashed lines showing where the screws (part#1) go through the holes in #14? Those dashed lines are actually depicting center line of the screws/holes. (The format of the line, long dash/short dash/long dash, etc. is the standard for depicting center lines). Where the center line from the bottom screw crosses the threaded tab for the screw (part#3) that holds parts #15 and #16 to the bracket part #14, the center line should not be shown crossing over that tab. It actually should go under the tab, since it is hidden by the tab. Drafts people make mistakes too...
Yeh, I once wanted to be a mechanical engineer...
Last edited by Def Mute; Jul 17, 2014 at 06:17 AM.
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I'm putting a 2014 air cleaner on my 2010 limited. I went online to order the gasket that goes between the filter element and the backplate and notice that the online lookup doesn't show this gasket for the '14s.
I think it's fairly obvious from the diagrams but can someone confirm the 2014 air cleaners don't use this gasket?
It's item #13 in the below pic for the 2010. The second pic is the 2014 diagram and I don't see any gasket.
2014
I think it's fairly obvious from the diagrams but can someone confirm the 2014 air cleaners don't use this gasket?
It's item #13 in the below pic for the 2010. The second pic is the 2014 diagram and I don't see any gasket.
2014
I'm only an Electrical Engineer.
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A fresh view is always welcome! #6 probably seals the cover and backplate of the housing, but not between the filter itself and the backplate. #9 does the same job on the older housing.
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