class action lawsuit against the moco...
Stellar HDF Member
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From: New Jersey
Back in 93 I had a old time rider tell me. "Harley wants Honda's customers. problem is, they will be dealing with them". I am not saying this is my attitude, just what a old timer told me back in 93. Harley must do better, but, anyone waiting to buy a perfect motorcycle has a long, long wait. The true test is taking care of issues. Harley has delivered on that front. IMO.
This is the way it is with these complex vehicles now. It's how well the company responds to the issues that really matters. I bought a first year bike with a lot of new technology. While I hoped it would be trouble free, I did expect that there might be issues. IMO, Harley has done an excellent job in responding quickly and efficiently to the handful of minor issues that have cropped up in the 2014's.
Road Warrior
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From: Port Neches Texas
I know my demeanor regarding would measure somewhere between unhappy and the screaming case of the red ***, and where on that scale would be based on the attitude of the people I had to deal with during the process.
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Joined: Jun 2011
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From: Mountain Top, Alabama
Go in just about any Dealer and look at the new bikes, and when Sales approaches you - get around to asking about any "Coolant leaks or something like that". They will down play it, or deny it in it's entirety. "They probably overfilled it", "Didn't put the cap on tight", or some other BS at best. They know there is a problem - but man, they sure want to sell one to you! And money talks...
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Joined: Sep 2006
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From: Northern California
Go in just about any Dealer and look at the new bikes, and when Sales approaches you - get around to asking about any "Coolant leaks or something like that". They will down play it, or deny it in it's entirety. "They probably overfilled it", "Didn't put the cap on tight", or some other BS at best. They know there is a problem - but man, they sure want to sell one to you! And money talks...
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Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Virginia Beach
mr okon is sadly typical of the modern american "biker", unlike the real american bikers that could handle life as it comes, the new age "biker" whines and snivels and runs to a lawyer or calls the cops when things don't go his way.
The dripper glide is a new product that's having some minor first edition issues with the unnecessary cooling system and mr okon can't figure out that it'll get fixed as soon as they figure out how to fix it, or that he can drain and shut the system down and continue to enjoy his motorcycle without any problems until they come up with a fix for it.
This snivelin' little weasel would have lost his mind had he bought a new harley in the late 70's or early 80's and had to deal with all of the issues they had in those days....and yet, all of us guys who were riding them back in those days managed to have a damn good time with them.
The pussification of the american biker is truly upon us.
The dripper glide is a new product that's having some minor first edition issues with the unnecessary cooling system and mr okon can't figure out that it'll get fixed as soon as they figure out how to fix it, or that he can drain and shut the system down and continue to enjoy his motorcycle without any problems until they come up with a fix for it.
This snivelin' little weasel would have lost his mind had he bought a new harley in the late 70's or early 80's and had to deal with all of the issues they had in those days....and yet, all of us guys who were riding them back in those days managed to have a damn good time with them.
The pussification of the american biker is truly upon us.
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 658
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From: South Florida
Mr Okon is sadly typical of the modern American "biker", unlike the real American bikers that could handle life as it comes, the new age "biker" whines and snivels and runs to a lawyer or calls the cops when things don't go his way.The pussification of the American Biker is truly upon us.
DJK
Wisdom should land us somewhere in between.
But I tend to agree with the pussification statement.
Go read the thread on the front spark plug wire rubbing... I got flamed pretty good for saying be an adult, and fix it. It's a hard fix, like bending a wire.....
But I tend to agree with the pussification statement.
Go read the thread on the front spark plug wire rubbing... I got flamed pretty good for saying be an adult, and fix it. It's a hard fix, like bending a wire.....
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From: Nevada
I saw a 2014 Ultra Limited at a dealer last week with a coolant leak. The bike had only 130 miles.
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Cruiser
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From: Hudson, Wi
It's not just the "new age biker" who pulls this crap, it's more or less the average Joe Citizen nowadays. At least IMNSHO. It;s a sad state of affairs, and just keeps getting worse.
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From: anacoco, la
which is borne out by your own admission of 'Even when it was working it really didn't cut the heat down enough'
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