More Oil, Less Heat
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More Oil, Less Heat
I wonder if adding something like the Baker oil pan, which gives you another quart of oil, would help cool down the engine?
http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/flt/index.htm#p1p
The web site says it reduces temp 10 deg on a 80 deg day.
http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/flt/index.htm#p1p
The web site says it reduces temp 10 deg on a 80 deg day.
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I wonder if adding something like the Baker oil pan, which gives you another quart of oil, would help cool down the engine?
http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/flt/index.htm#p1p
The web site says it reduces temp 10 deg on a 80 deg day.
http://www.bakerdrivetrain.com/flt/index.htm#p1p
The web site says it reduces temp 10 deg on a 80 deg day.
Would be great....if it really works!
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Jim it looks like its the same but deeper. The TG has a plate under the pan thats kinda wide' looks like the Engine and Trans would have to be pulled out to install the oil-trans pan don't know if it would clear the plate thats part of the rear frame. It was a thought till I looked under the TG.
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It is a bit of a pain to replace the oil pan, not impossible by any means, but you usually have to remove the swing arm connection (rear motor mounts) at the frame and jack the rear of the motor up a bit. There is surely a step-by-step out there complete with pictures somewhere. I'd go study that before I decided to do it. Another quart of oil surely helps, but you can do the same thing with a well installed remote oil filter, or even a crash-bar cooler. You can get close to another quart in there with the crash-bar cooler. Some folks shy away from a crash-bar cooler, but that concept has been around many, many years and I have ran one on the last three Harley's I have owned. It's out of sight, out of mind, in the wind, very durable, holds some additional oil and you can reach down there and warm yours hands on those cooler days. I have read some comments on the over sized pan and one consideration is that it is not "in the wind". It just takes a bit longer to get 5-6 quarts as hot as it does 3-4 quarts, but if you cannot cool it, it will eventually get just as hot. On the other side of the coin, on the cold days it takes a bit longer to get that same 5-6 quarts up to operating temperature.
There is always a pro and con to anything I suppose.
There is always a pro and con to anything I suppose.
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Jim it looks like its the same but deeper. The TG has a plate under the pan thats kinda wide' looks like the Engine and Trans would have to be pulled out to install the oil-trans pan don't know if it would clear the plate thats part of the rear frame. It was a thought till I looked under the TG.
It is a bit of a pain to replace the oil pan, not impossible by any means, but you usually have to remove the swing arm connection (rear motor mounts) at the frame and jack the rear of the motor up a bit. There is surely a step-by-step out there complete with pictures somewhere. I'd go study that before I decided to do it. Another quart of oil surely helps, but you can do the same thing with a well installed remote oil filter, or even a crash-bar cooler. You can get close to another quart in there with the crash-bar cooler. Some folks shy away from a crash-bar cooler, but that concept has been around many, many years and I have ran one on the last three Harley's I have owned. It's out of sight, out of mind, in the wind, very durable, holds some additional oil and you can reach down there and warm yours hands on those cooler days. I have read some comments on the over sized pan and one consideration is that it is not "in the wind". It just takes a bit longer to get 5-6 quarts as hot as it does 3-4 quarts, but if you cannot cool it, it will eventually get just as hot. On the other side of the coin, on the cold days it takes a bit longer to get that same 5-6 quarts up to operating temperature.
There is always a pro and con to anything I suppose.
There is always a pro and con to anything I suppose.
Vt, the point that you make about the extra quart of oil eventually reaching the same temp. is certainly a valid argument! So after buying the Baker Pan, going through all the work to install it all I would achieve is 15 min. or so of reduced oil temps.
Doesnt seem worth it! Thanks again guys I love this site!!!!!!!!!!
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I don't knock Baker and I have one of their 6-speeds in my trike.
Obviously, more oil would mean cooler oil, but for how long. I just think you could get more oil capacity without spending all those bucks for the pan and the change. I have heard one of the aftermarket firms is working on "floorboard" oil coolers. I can't wait to see what they have came up with.
Obviously, more oil would mean cooler oil, but for how long. I just think you could get more oil capacity without spending all those bucks for the pan and the change. I have heard one of the aftermarket firms is working on "floorboard" oil coolers. I can't wait to see what they have came up with.
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Remember Org split gas tanks one side gas the other was a oil tank. Can allways find a place to hold more oil. Frame tubes. You got that right Baker builds some of the best stuff out there.
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How about Floorboard Oil coolers? Mt. Wizard sent me a link. I found this web site:
http://www.dmcustomcycle.com/floorboard-oil-coolers.php
http://www.dmcustomcycle.com/floorboard-oil-coolers.php
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How about Floorboard Oil coolers? Mt. Wizard sent me a link. I found this web site:
http://www.dmcustomcycle.com/floorboard-oil-coolers.php
http://www.dmcustomcycle.com/floorboard-oil-coolers.php