Rabbit is Good, Rabbit is Wise. "-Changing the TSSM will accomplish nothing (unless it is faulty) because you will still have to have dealer set-up the security system + you'll be out for the cost of a new TSSM that was not necessary." If he changed out the original TSSM, the dealer must set-up the new TSSM to the ECM with the digital tech, otherwise when you turn the key on, the flashers will alternately flash right to left, pause, then right to left again as long as key is turned on because the ECM isn't recognizing the new TSSM. If you try to start the bike, the ECM is shutting down the power to the fuel pump because it's "thinking" someone swapped out the TSSM to steal the bike! Also, the proximity-FOB is not set to the new TSSM, even if it came with the new TSSM; it has to be set on the digital technician or the old FOB set to the new TSSM. I had this scenario in my final PhD lab in the V-Rod section at MMI last month where the instructor swapped out the bike's original TSSM for a different one (among other things!) and it behaved exactly as has been described. Assuming he put the bike together right, he should be riding off on it right after having this done at the dealership!

 

I'm having the same problem with a 07 nightrod special, the original key fob drains a battery in one day, so i thought i would change the whole TSSM, i bought a new one with a new matching key fob, I installed it but i can't do the password learning because the bike doesn't start or cranck at all. the alarm seems still active and the turn signal lamps keep flashing when i switch the igntion on. help!!!

 

Trying to fix your bike by buying parts for it can not only get expensive, as you've found out, it can be futile; we called this method "repair by replacement" in the Navy! TSSM replacement, and the required actions, was covered in my 10-16-2008, 01:26 PM {prior}entry: you cannot simply change the TSSM and it will work! Everything on the "new bikes" is electronic (right down to setting the idle speed!) and procedures must be performed using the {dealer's} digital tech program aka you have to pay for this service {surprised they'd just sell you one knowing this w/o telling you!. Based on your discription, I believe it is the battery or, on a long-shot, the charging system itself which is giving you the problem, not the TSSM/security system "draining it"... have it checked.

 

Thanks for your entry rob, I agree with what you said about trying to replace parts at home, i've been doing that for a while since the closest dealer is 200miles away from where i am. anyhow, it's the Keyfob battery that's dying not the motorcycle battery.

 

Reading over your post, I can see where I missed that one... weird symptom (and why I like pre-2003 EVOS with carbs and no security systems): would have to be something in the FOB itself that is draining the FOB battery since, the TSSM security being independent, it's draining it and not the bike battery. However, now that you replaced the TSSM, you added to the problem since the ECM and the TSSM are not "mated" (by use of Digital Tech program exclusively @ the dealer) so the security system is not allowing you to start the bike {this is so not any yahoo can simply swap out a new TSSM and steal the bike!}... put the old TSSM back in and it should start and run as long as the FOB is working {but then you still have the original problem of having to manually override the security}. The FOB battery problem you are experiencing is a mystery... I don't have my notes here and, being lost without them, don't want to give you bad advice: I'll look this up tonight and get back in a few days with a solution (?)... if possible.

 

that'll be greatly appreciated, thank you

 

Sorry for the wait but I wanted to look at my notes to ensure I was accurate before prompting my two cents worth with bad info. On your 2007, the hands free security system (HFSSM) sends out a signal when in the proximity of the bike instead of the "old style" that you had to depress the button to cancel the self-arming alarm to start the bike or perform maintenance on it; this FOB search-signal stops once it is out of proximity of the bike and the system then self-arms. There is also a manual PIN you can enter to shut off the alarm when the FOB is left at home or lost (or in this case doesn't work). As far as my notes go, nothing in them spoke of FOB's being drained by a faulty TSSM (or draining out even if you kept the FOB tied to the bike as MMI did on the '06 and up bikes we worked on) so my "two cents" on this is faulty FOB, poor quality replacement batteries, or faulty TSSM (but the dealer must electronically set-up): You should have been given two FOBS; do both FOBs have this same symptom? It should be possible to purchase replacement FOB's for the existing TSSM but the dealer has to set-up the "password learn" of these FOBS to "synch" the TSSM to the new FOBS using the Digital Tech (dealer) computer (the part I had to make sure I was correct about- hate to send you to the dealer for something you can do yourself!). If you put in a new TSSM yourself, it will never run because the ECM does not recognize the new part so it will never start since the starter ground is controlled by the TSSM circuitry. The "DIY" part that you can actually perform is the PIN set-up for manual override but the dealer MUST do the TSSM-to-FOB set-up. The good news is it should be a simple "in-out" at the dealer and one half-hour or less labor to accomplish this FOB mate so no real $$$ damage; the hard part is to get it there from 200 miles away! PS: and looking back over the complete post, I see I am repeating myself from the initial (and more detailed) posts! LOL Any how, good luck wid it!