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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 06:17 AM
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Had some time yesterday so I hooked up the relay. I also bought some relay sockets off eBay. Researched the simple wiring diagram and did it. Hookup was very simple and works like a champ. 10 second delay seems like just enough for me. I do not always wait for the acceptance screen though before I crank up. So may want more time if you do wait religiously for that.
I kept everything in the fairing and used the same 12v lead/location and used the ground lead at the same spot for relay's ground this time.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CPT_Carrera
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I don't really have any advice regarding the hiss. I don't hear any unless it's from a radio station or maybe when I first power up and my headset is on my head before I'm paired. Then I hear it for a sec but, not once a connection is established. You might try deleting all pairings and repairing on both devices and see if it goes away. You connected to the light blue wire in that accessory power kit?

As for the volume its definitely gotta be more bike volume and way less Sena volume for music till you get it. I have my Harley's volume about three dots from max if I'm playing music into my headset and my Sena about a 3/4 turn from lowest setting. I play with that a little sometimes while riding. Another rider who has an older version of this AKE device told me it wasn't satisfactory for him regardless and bought the Sena SM10 for music purposes. He only uses the AKE device for comms (CB and phone) and occasionally for news broadcasts which mono is fine for. He connected the SM10 to his passenger port for stereo music which is about like using one of the Sierra Electronics Sena harnesses. I imagine from a cost perspective you'd still be on top if all you use it for is comms and not music.

After reading your post I grabbed my SMH10 and full face helmet and paired it and volume wise it was almost deafening in my garage. If you also have a full face maybe check your speaker placement to get them better over your ears.


Thanks for the post back. I spent some quality time with the AKE HC2 this weekend. It was suggested to me to connect up the ground wire to see if it would make a difference... it did. With the ground wire connected the hiss was significantly reduced and the overall volume increased to acceptable levels. After a test drive, I did not notice any alternator whine (ground loop issues) as others have reported. Not sure why the ground wire would make that much of a difference, but it does.


With the ground wire connected, I am a happy camper. Now if only we can get Harley to provide the option to disable the sidetone


Thanks again to everyone for your help, I really appreciate it!
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 11:45 AM
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I should also note that I performed a Pre-Calibration Reset procedure that I found in this post: https://www.hdforums.com/forum/new-r...-light-up.html


I am not sure if this fixed the weirdness with the intercom or not, but it had no effect on the volume level and hiss, that was only fixed by connecting the ground wire.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2015 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jheimann
Thanks for the post back. I spent some quality time with the AKE HC2 this weekend. It was suggested to me to connect up the ground wire to see if it would make a difference... it did. With the ground wire connected the hiss was significantly reduced and the overall volume increased to acceptable levels. After a test drive, I did not notice any alternator whine (ground loop issues) as others have reported. Not sure why the ground wire would make that much of a difference, but it does.


With the ground wire connected, I am a happy camper. Now if only we can get Harley to provide the option to disable the sidetone


Thanks again to everyone for your help, I really appreciate it!
Ground loops are just funny like that.

Anyone else considering this device will just have to try it without and if it is giving them trouble with interference like this just try that ground wire.

Thanks for the update!
 
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Old Jun 24, 2015 | 08:49 PM
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I Skyped today with Patrick_74 to confirm that our devices were behaving similarly with our Sena headsets and learned something I thought worth sharing. I can only say that this happens with Sena as its the only headsets I own. I also feel anything learned is worth sharing since the AKE instructions leave something to be desired so I hope you all find this useful.

Anyway, as the rider connected to the AKE Bluetooth extension you should avoid starting an intercom session between your Sena headsets while your AKE extension is in mono/ duplex mode. This is not really a problem if your passenger, who is not connected to the device attempts an intercom conversation with you because your headset will reject the request because it's essentially using the headset profile which takes priority for the Senas. The SMH and SPH10s that is anyway.

The right way to talk to your passenger with Sena headsets would be to place your AKE Bluetooth extension device into stereo mode then have your intercom conversation and/or music share. If you need to talk on the CB or take a phone call, you as the rider connected to the device should push your multifunction button to place your device in mono mode, conduct your business, and push your multifunction button again to place it back in stereo. Then, resume your intercom conversation or music sharing.

If you try to open an intercom session while in mono, what you will find is that while you will be able to, your device will fault once you end it and you will no longer hear your bikes audio. Both your headset and the device at this point will blink as if nothing's wrong but it just won't get any audio to the headset. It's a procedural thing that you'll have to live with but what we learned is that if this occurs you can quickly recover by holding your Sena's phone button down to put your headset back into phone pairing mode or simply turn your device off and on again. whichever method you feel safest attempting while riding at this point is going to be your best bet.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 11:26 AM
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I have had the AKE for over a year, two of the originals, they don't have the ground wire, and no remote, so they just hung out of my helmet connection port. My wife and I use Sena 20S's, and have had them since they first came out. My wife quit using her AKE and it's ironic what we found out this past year. When we are in intercom mode - which is all the time - she can hear my CB over the headset. She can also transmit over my radio while I hold down the transmit button. We found this out when she was commenting about someone riding skills while I was transmitting to one of our group riders. . . (so watch what you say when your on full duplex). I do have an issue every 3 or 4 minutes I get a very annoying whine, from very quit to extremely annoying and then it fades back out. I get this on either AKE. During this period no one can understand what I transmit - very garbled. Because I have no ground wire I'm thinking of purchasing one of the newer models and seeing if the ground would solve the problem. I have connected the power wire to the aux power on the bike. Sometimes the AKE gets 'stupid' as stated above and I've found powering off and on the headset or the AKE and reestablishing the blue tooth connection solves the problem. So using the Aux switch on the dash is a quick way of resetting the AKE.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2015 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by imacowboy
When we are in intercom mode - which is all the time - she can hear my CB over the headset. She can also transmit over my radio while I hold down the transmit button. We found this out when she was commenting about someone riding skills while I was transmitting to one of our group riders. . . (so watch what you say when your on full duplex).
so, you guys actually take advantage of what the rest of us have described as an issue. That's interesting. Ill have to play with that a bit. So you are in mono/duplex on the AKE then and just open an intercom on your Senas headsets per usual then and this allows the passenger to transmit assuming your holding the PTT?
 
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Old Jun 30, 2015 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CPT_Carrera
so, you guys actually take advantage of what the rest of us have described as an issue. That's interesting. Ill have to play with that a bit. So you are in mono/duplex on the AKE then and just open an intercom on your Senas headsets per usual then and this allows the passenger to transmit assuming your holding the PTT?
We do, I'm assuming she's able to transmit as a result of the 20S's having the phone share function.
 
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I tried step 16 from the SMH10 manual to make this work but was unsuccessful. Oh well!
 

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Old Jul 2, 2015 | 10:54 AM
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